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Tuesday, March 18, 2014
Monday, March 10, 2014
(Updated) Intuition is good, reading is better! + 1 Game Review
( i'm not a english native speaker, so please excuse some mistakes and maybe awkward formulations)
So what`s going on lately in my go live?
I started again to play frequently at KGS, for some time rated as a 4 Kyu, now back to 5 kyu. But that`s fine, i think 4 kyu was highly overrated... i won some fast games by luck.
So... i`m still not very good at Life and Death, which, in my oppinion, is training the "key ability" in go: reading out possible variations. Your intuition, your sense for the fuseki or for the strategy can be good, but without the possibility to really read out, more or less, long sequences, espacially L&D your will be soon lost in go and make no further progress.
I use to not see this clearly, i thought
"i`m so bad at soving L & D and it is soo boring, i will just play more games and become better at l&d naturally" ... but this does not work (at least for me) and so i started to push my self to do some problems every day. I still have my problems with them, sometimes thinking 5 minutes or more over a problem labled as "10 kyu" :-D
But even with life & death i have my good moments, and i`m very passionate to get better at it. When i`m not playing or reviewing my own games, my main study object, at the moment, is solving L&D and reading books about it. There are a lot of fine books about this topic, for example "Key Concepts of live and Death" or "Life and Death Problems" by Robert Jasiek. And suddenly, after i acepted the need to learn l&d, it started to become a bit more fun than before.
And as i mentioned in a earlier update recently i tried out the "solving in the mind" tsumego technique.
Somehow i forgot to go on whith this in the last few days, but i will start again from now on.
And there was a first sucess allready, i managed to visualize and solve one problem 100% in my mind, that was a great experience. You should try this as well!
In the mean time i did not play many long games at KGS, even while i think i`m a bit better when i play long games. In my every day life i`m a bit slow as well... and even in school i almost never finished my exams right in time hahah :D
To play fast games often has many benefits, it helps to learn basic things very fast... after each game you can check the joseki and fuseki, and so learn new things fast. When you play a 2 hours game, it is a bit more complicated to not feel sorry if you play a somehow "stupid" move. Fast games can be taken easy and are fun too. (I`m not talking about lightning/blitz games here, these are fun as well, but i think you do not learn much appart from strenghtening your intuition, which is of course important too.)
Last year, before our daughter was born, i remember how important it was for me to draw a line between fast / long games ... to somehow say
"no this was just a fast game, i`m much stronger when i play serious..."
But i learned that the game should allways be played serious, and that how you manage the time limit, on which both players agreed on, is a important part of ones own "strength". But of course, i still think, that the true beauty of go evolves when playing long games... even when i see more benefit in playing much faster games...
In order to, besides that, enjoy a lot of long and slow games as well i play a lot at DGS at the moment... maybe too many games :-) and because i started soooo many games i tend to play fast at DGS as well... hahahaha :D
But i was playing a few long games at kgs and espacially two of them i want to share today.
The one with much comments by myself was when i played as 4 kyu against another 4 kyu.
The other one was a long awaited game with BenGoZen, i think you all know his wonderfull Go blog! http://www.bengozen.com/
It was a great pleasure to play such a long and interesting game. Before we played the game i allready started with the review of the other long game, so the game against BenGoZen is not yet reviewed.
Finally one more random thing:
As i allways tend to hang arround a lot on twitter, i was posting a tweet
"Intuition is good, reading is better. #key #Go #baduk #weiqi"
and @igoPau replied
“there should be a meme "why not both" with your tweet ;)"
soo i quickly made my first, and as far as planed ONLY go meme ever (I`m not really a big meme fan, but in this situation i could not resist =)
Maybe you enjoy the following review of a very long game i played as 4 kyu vs. a other 4 kyu, i won with a very small margin of 5,50 as white... and i think it was a interesting game. Please leave comments on your thoughts :-)
The Sakata Eio - Go Seigen game is given here as well because i mention this game in my review.
So... next here is the game i played with/against :) BenGoZen ... enjoy!
“You should look at the board and play wherever you want to. This is the way to get stronger.” Takemiya Masaki
So what`s going on lately in my go live?
I started again to play frequently at KGS, for some time rated as a 4 Kyu, now back to 5 kyu. But that`s fine, i think 4 kyu was highly overrated... i won some fast games by luck.
So... i`m still not very good at Life and Death, which, in my oppinion, is training the "key ability" in go: reading out possible variations. Your intuition, your sense for the fuseki or for the strategy can be good, but without the possibility to really read out, more or less, long sequences, espacially L&D your will be soon lost in go and make no further progress.
I use to not see this clearly, i thought
"i`m so bad at soving L & D and it is soo boring, i will just play more games and become better at l&d naturally" ... but this does not work (at least for me) and so i started to push my self to do some problems every day. I still have my problems with them, sometimes thinking 5 minutes or more over a problem labled as "10 kyu" :-D
But even with life & death i have my good moments, and i`m very passionate to get better at it. When i`m not playing or reviewing my own games, my main study object, at the moment, is solving L&D and reading books about it. There are a lot of fine books about this topic, for example "Key Concepts of live and Death" or "Life and Death Problems" by Robert Jasiek. And suddenly, after i acepted the need to learn l&d, it started to become a bit more fun than before.
And as i mentioned in a earlier update recently i tried out the "solving in the mind" tsumego technique.
Somehow i forgot to go on whith this in the last few days, but i will start again from now on.
And there was a first sucess allready, i managed to visualize and solve one problem 100% in my mind, that was a great experience. You should try this as well!
In the mean time i did not play many long games at KGS, even while i think i`m a bit better when i play long games. In my every day life i`m a bit slow as well... and even in school i almost never finished my exams right in time hahah :D
To play fast games often has many benefits, it helps to learn basic things very fast... after each game you can check the joseki and fuseki, and so learn new things fast. When you play a 2 hours game, it is a bit more complicated to not feel sorry if you play a somehow "stupid" move. Fast games can be taken easy and are fun too. (I`m not talking about lightning/blitz games here, these are fun as well, but i think you do not learn much appart from strenghtening your intuition, which is of course important too.)
Last year, before our daughter was born, i remember how important it was for me to draw a line between fast / long games ... to somehow say
"no this was just a fast game, i`m much stronger when i play serious..."
But i learned that the game should allways be played serious, and that how you manage the time limit, on which both players agreed on, is a important part of ones own "strength". But of course, i still think, that the true beauty of go evolves when playing long games... even when i see more benefit in playing much faster games...
In order to, besides that, enjoy a lot of long and slow games as well i play a lot at DGS at the moment... maybe too many games :-) and because i started soooo many games i tend to play fast at DGS as well... hahahaha :D
Here a picture i took today from our daughter (10 months now)
But i was playing a few long games at kgs and espacially two of them i want to share today.
The one with much comments by myself was when i played as 4 kyu against another 4 kyu.
The other one was a long awaited game with BenGoZen, i think you all know his wonderfull Go blog! http://www.bengozen.com/
It was a great pleasure to play such a long and interesting game. Before we played the game i allready started with the review of the other long game, so the game against BenGoZen is not yet reviewed.
Finally one more random thing:
As i allways tend to hang arround a lot on twitter, i was posting a tweet
"Intuition is good, reading is better. #key #Go #baduk #weiqi"
and @igoPau replied
“there should be a meme "why not both" with your tweet ;)"
soo i quickly made my first, and as far as planed ONLY go meme ever (I`m not really a big meme fan, but in this situation i could not resist =)
Maybe you enjoy the following review of a very long game i played as 4 kyu vs. a other 4 kyu, i won with a very small margin of 5,50 as white... and i think it was a interesting game. Please leave comments on your thoughts :-)
The Sakata Eio - Go Seigen game is given here as well because i mention this game in my review.
(;GM[1]FF[4]SZ[19]AP[SmartGo:2.8.3.0]CA[UTF-8]
GN[2014-03-06a]
PW[eyecatcher]WR[4k]
PB[madrone7]BR[4k]
DT[2014-03-06]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[6.5]
RE[W+5.50]
RU[Japanese]
TM[1800.0]OT[2x120 byo-yomi]
C[This was a very long game, i think we played something like 2 hours or more. ]
CH[1]FA[];B[pd]BL[1792.9];W[dc]WL[1781.0]
C[I was white. ];B[dp]BL[1789.8]
C[Cross fuseki ];W[qo]WL[1771.0]
C[Most of the time i love to fight, so i play sometimes influence orientated "fighting moves" like this. But i'm not 100% fighter / agressive all the time... I like to invade and make live as well... so i think i did not found my style yet, maybe never will =) ]
;B[de]BL[1781.1];W[ce]WL[1738.1];B[cf]BL[1766.1];W[cd]WL[1730.3];B[dg]BL[1764.0]
;W[ef]WL[1718.2];B[df]BL[1757.7];W[ed]WL[1705.7]
C[I saw this joseki in a Sakata Eio vs. Go Seigen game once. It is one of my facorite games and i replayed it very often in order to be able to replay it ... now i think i can't remember all the moves, but when i did study it i could replay the first 100 moves. What of course does not mean that i did understood them :-D ]
;B[ck]BL[1752.1]
C[Next move would maybe have been better at 2 ]
(;W[ee]WL[1683.6]
C[You can see the Go Seigen Sakata game below.];B[lc]BL[1730.3]
C[Super wide shimari. I reminds me at the O Meien style (Meienism). Black does want of course to limit the power of whites wall. ]
TR[ed:ef];W[pq]WL[1660.6]
C[Haha, now my "great" fighting move at 3/5 point is transformed in to a part of a normal shimari... just the move order reversed... ]
;B[jp]BL[1721.6]
C[ok now there are much possibilities for white...1, 2 , 3, 4, 5 where the moves i thought about. (variations are included just skip right.) ]
(;W[lp]WL[1618.5]
C[Was this a good move? I do not regret it. ];B[kn]BL[1712.9]
C[but anyway black has a nice mojo and i fell like my fuseki up to now was not very good.
Invade san-san now would be a option, or invasion arround 3]
(;W[nc]WL[1610.5]
C[This isn't a shimari or is it?! :)
Maybe i just played here because this point is soo obvious =) ]
;B[ic]BL[1706.1]
C[Next play at 2 is the obvious answer... but i thought that this is not a good way to play because black allready has a two point extension. ]
(;W[qf]WL[1591.7]
C[Maybe 2 ( joseki database pattern) next is better? ]
(;B[oe]BL[1685.8]
C[Without the white wall at E16 i would not have played next at "1" but invade san-san.]
(;W[md]WL[1569.8];B[ke]BL[1669.1];W[pb]WL[1547.1];B[qc]BL[1647.5];W[qb]WL[1517.6]
;B[rb]BL[1600.7];W[rc]WL[1490.5];B[rd]BL[1589.1];W[pc]WL[1480.5];B[qd]BL[1587.2]
;W[od]WL[1465.0]
C[if black takes tenuki next ( 2) ]
(;B[pf]BL[1581.9];W[qg]WL[1454.9];B[mf]BL[1576.5];W[mb]WL[1430.4]
C[I think black could have killed the group ... maybe with a move at 2 ? ]
(;B[lb]BL[1571.7];W[ob]WL[1419.2]
C[anyway in the game white could live];B[fh]BL[1538.1];W[eh]WL[1379.1]
C[strange move. I knew that black will cut... but the mojo is too big, i had to do something ... ]
;B[eg]BL[1523.0];W[bh]WL[1340.7];B[bg]BL[1496.4];W[cj]WL[1328.6]
C[i did not know at this point that this stone will become important later. ]
;B[dj]BL[1481.8]
C[Ok, after this strong looking response i decided to invade another time. ]
;W[gp]WL[1298.1];B[eq]BL[1449.5];W[bq]WL[1282.6]
C[and another invasion... this looks like carazy, and i``m quite sure if a dan player would review this, it would be easyli explained that my moves a kind of overplay... but in the end, black made some mistakes and i was sucessfull... it is a important thing to review ones own games, because if you win with "mistake-moves", because your opponent made more mistakes, you think your mistakes were good moves. ]
;B[bp]BL[1426.6]
C[But i allways go with the Takemia Masaki quote "“You should look at the board and play wherever you want to. This is the way to get stronger.” Even if later it gets clear that thoose were mistakes... if there is a spot on the board were i feel a need to play there... i play it. ]
;W[cr]WL[1266.9]
C[2 would have been better maybe. I think black could have punished white 50 much better, i ould not play there again, even while black mistakes, while handling this, were giving me somehow the victory.]
(;B[dr]BL[1414.6]
C[This was a mistake]
(;W[cp]WL[1249.7];B[co]BL[1407.8];W[cq]WL[1240.9]
(;B[bo]BL[1360.5];W[dq]WL[1074.0]
(;B[fp]BL[1346.8];W[er]WL[1067.2];B[fr]BL[1343.6];W[ds]WL[1045.5];B[gq]BL[1301.3]
;W[do]WL[1038.6];B[ep]BL[1299.6];W[dn]WL[1030.5];B[cm]BL[1291.8];W[dk]WL[1018.9]
C[Black made many mistakes here, i was lucky];B[ej]BL[1253.5];W[cl]WL[1008.6]
C[now, "white 46" helps to do something painfull for black here. ];B[bk]
BL[1244.9];W[cn]WL[921.6];B[bn]BL[1205.6];W[bm]WL[913.5];B[bl]BL[1059.8]
;W[dm]WL[836.2];B[bj]BL[1000.8];W[al]WL[742.9]
C[White should be ahead now. ];B[qi]BL[960.2]
C[In the end black was catching up a lot and without komi white would have lost the game. ]
;W[ci]WL[730.7];B[bi]BL[937.0];W[ch]WL[714.0];B[ah]BL[912.6];W[ei]WL[606.2]
;B[fi]BL[880.3];W[fj]WL[596.8];B[ek]BL[864.1];W[pi]WL[492.7];B[pj]BL[837.6]
;W[oh]WL[434.3];B[qh]BL[819.1];W[qj]WL[420.0];B[rj]BL[782.8];W[qk]WL[413.3]
;B[rk]BL[780.5];W[ql]WL[403.8];B[rl]BL[696.4];W[qm]WL[388.9];B[ph]BL[670.1]
;W[nk]WL[337.5];B[mn]BL[647.9];W[ko]WL[321.7];B[jo]BL[632.8];W[ln]WL[313.4]
;B[lm]BL[628.5]
C[2 would look like very bad shape ]
(;W[mo]WL[304.3];B[mm]BL[570.5];W[km]WL[295.1];B[jn]BL[568.3];W[kl]WL[284.7]
C[i think this was a bit too agressive ];B[mk]BL[537.5];W[oi]WL[221.1];B[mj]
BL[503.5];W[mh]WL[195.1];B[kj]BL[490.2];W[gj]WL[171.4]
C[This is again some kind of "you should play wherever you want" move ... i thought ... maybe this move is the worst move i could play, like a pass... but it looks so interesting, maybe it can help ... I JUST HAVE TO PLAY HERE :D ]
;B[ik]BL[447.8];W[gh]WL[155.4];B[fg]BL[430.3];W[nn]WL[134.9]
C[black starts with reducing the big white territorry in the lower right]
;B[nm]BL[420.1];W[on]WL[124.7];B[lq]BL[391.8];W[mq]WL[108.9];B[kq]BL[389.4]
;W[mr]WL[99.1]
C[this move is not really sente, there are bigger places... and in the end i did not managed to play the monkey jump! Very bad. ]
;B[gf]BL[317.4];W[pg]WL[87.9]
C[Bringing nearly dead stones back to live is one of my favorite things :) I think Lee Sedol is famous for that, i like it. ]
;B[rg]BL[225.3];W[rf]WL[77.7];B[rh]BL[221.5];W[of]WL[54.6];B[pe]BL[209.1]
;W[si]WL[52.3];B[sg]BL[145.0];W[sf]WL[32.6];B[sj]BL[117.6];W[nf]WL[120.0]
OW[2];B[ne]BL[77.2];W[me]WL[120.0]OW[2];B[nd]BL[66.5];W[mc]WL[120.0]OW[2]
;B[na]BL[38.0];W[ra]WL[120.0]OW[2];B[sb]BL[34.7];W[lf]WL[120.0]OW[2];B[kf]
BL[120.0]OB[2];W[lg]WL[120.0]OW[2];B[kh]BL[120.0]OB[2]
C[Now white has killed another group... but the center is verry large and black is strong there ... the outcome of the game will be decided there... ]
;W[rm]WL[120.0]OW[2]
C[This is sente and white can play here whenever he wants ... but - loosing a possible ko threat. ]
;B[sl]BL[120.0]OB[2]
C[So ... what about the center? ];W[gc]WL[120.0]OW[2]
C[Ok, this was a good point to reduce black. ];B[hb]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[bf]
WL[120.0]OW[2]
C[If black tenuki / 2 ]
(;B[be]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[bd]WL[120.0]OW[2]
C[Protecting the corner in sente. ];B[af]BL[120.0]OB[2]
C[Next move i guess would have been better at 2, trying to do something more with the two marked stones... ]
TR[fj:gj]
(;W[he]WL[120.0]OW[2];B[ge]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[kd]WL[120.0]OW[2];B[jd]BL[120.0]
OB[2];W[kb]WL[120.0]OW[2];B[kc]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[ma]WL[120.0]OW[2];B[fb]BL[120.0]
OB[2];W[gb]WL[120.0]OW[2];B[ga]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[eb]WL[120.0]OW[2];B[fc]BL[120.0]
OB[2];W[fd]WL[120.0]OW[2];B[gd]BL[120.0]OB[2]
C[Painfull for white, white lost the connection to the marked stone!!! Big mistake i think. ]
TR[he];W[ec]WL[120.0]OW[2];B[fa]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[ea]WL[120.0]OW[2];B[hc]
BL[120.0]OB[2];W[la]WL[120.0]OW[1]
C[black reduced white, white connected to stone inside of blacks territorry... but because the marked stone was cut off i think this sequence was bad for white... ]
TR[fd][he];B[fm]BL[120.0]OB[2]
C[And white lost sente... black can play here... ok this is the last comment, i was lucky in this game.
Hope you enjoyed it.]
;W[kg]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[jg]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[el]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[dl]BL[120.0]
OB[2];W[cm]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[fl]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[jh]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[ki]BL[120.0]
OB[2];W[ih]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[ig]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[jk]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[il]BL[120.0]
OB[2];W[jj]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[ji]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[ld]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[jc]BL[120.0]
OB[2];W[hg]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[ie]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[ij]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[ii]BL[120.0]
OB[2];W[hl]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[hk]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[gk]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[hj]BL[120.0]
OB[2];W[lk]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[lj]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[om]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[nj]BL[120.0]
OB[2];W[oj]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[ok]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[pk]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[lr]BL[120.0]
OB[2]
C[eyecatcher [4k\]: haha too bad:D
];W[ol]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[ml]BL[120.0]
OB[2]
C[eyecatcher [4k\]: i finally was not able to monkey jump
];W[dk]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[fk]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[fn]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[gn]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[im]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[jm]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[kp]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[jq]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[fs]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[gs]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[le]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[if]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[fo]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[go]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[hp]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[hq]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[eo]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[fq]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[gm]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[ho]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[em]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[di]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[an]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[ms]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[ns]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[ls]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[nr]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[sm]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[ro]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[so]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[sp]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[sn]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[rp]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[ad]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[bc]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[ac]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[cb]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[ab]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[bb]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[es]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[hi]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[jl]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[fs]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[lo]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[mp]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[es]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[ri]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[sh]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[fs]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[jb]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[ka]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[es]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[dr]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[fs]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[rn]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[ja]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[ba]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[ae]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[ni]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[ln]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[nl]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[mi]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[lh]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[ak]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[dh]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[aj]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[cg]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[ai]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[am]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[dl]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[ri]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[si]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[dk]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[ng]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[og]WL[120.0]
OW[1];B[dl]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[je]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[jf]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[dk]WL[120.0]
OW[1]
(;B[]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[dl]WL[120.0]OW[1];B[]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[]WL[120.0]OW[1]
TW[ca:da][na:qa][sa:se][db][nb][rb][cc][oc][qc:qe][nd:ne][pd:pf][rd:re][oe][mf:mg][ng:nh][pj][ok][pl:pp][bn:bp][en][qn][ao:as][co][no:oq][qp:qs][rq:ss][br:bs][or:ps][cs]
TB[ha:ia][gb:gc][ib][hd:hi][id][je][bf][ag][gg:gm][bh:ch][eh:ei][ih:jh][ci:cj][ri][fj][ij:jj][jk:lk][sk][hl:hn][kl:km][ll][im:is][gp:hp][gr:hr][jr:ks][hs]
)
(;B[]BL[120.0]OB[2];W[]WL[120.0]OW[1]
TW[ca:da][db][cc]
TB[ha:ia][ka:ma][oa:sa][gb:gc][ib][kb][mb:qb][mc:pc][rc:sc][hd:hi][id][kd:md][od][sd:sf][je][le:li][me][qe:qg][re:rf][bf][nf:of][ag][gg:gm][kg][mg:mh][og:os][pg][bh:ch][eh:ei][ih:jh][nh:ni][ci:cj][pi:ps][ri][fj][ij:jj][qj:qs][jk:lk][nk:nl][sk][hl:hn][kl:km][ll][im:is][rm:rs][nn:ns][ko:kp][mo:mr][gp:hp][lp][sp:ss][gr:hr][jr:ks][hs]
))
(;W[fl];B[el];W[em]
(;B[fm];W[fn];B[gm];W[gn];B[hn];W[hm];B[gl];W[hl];B[gk];W[ho];B[in];W[hq]
;B[hr]
C[something like that. ])
(;B[fk];W[gl];B[gk];W[hk];B[hj];W[hl];B[fm];W[fn];B[gm]
C[1 is bad ... white can`t play the net here. ]
(;W[hn];B[hm]TR[hl];W[il];B[im])
(;W[gn]
C[white should play carefull ... because in the end he could get short of liberties. ]
TR[dl][cm][bn:bp];B[hm];W[hn];B[im];W[hq];B[hp];W[ip];B[ho];W[io];B[go];W[fo]
;B[gp];W[in];B[iq];W[hr];B[dl];W[cm];B[en];W[eo]TR[eo];B[an];W[ap];B[ak]
;W[aq];B[am]
C[uuups ]))))
(;B[fm];W[cg];B[ag];W[ai];B[aj];W[af];B[ai];W[ak]))
(;W[lo];B[mm];W[np];B[kq];W[lq];B[on]))
(;B[fr];W[ep];B[do];W[fq]
(;B[er];W[gr]
(;B[ds])
(;B[cs]
(;W[ds];B[bs];W[br];B[es];W[ar];B[ap];W[gs];B[aq])
(;W[bs]
(;B[aq];W[ds];B[ar];W[br];B[ap];W[fs])
(;B[ds];W[fs]))))
(;B[gr];W[er];B[es]))
(;B[er];W[ep];B[do];W[fq];B[fr];W[gr]TR[cr];B[cs];W[ds];B[es];W[bs];B[aq]
;W[ds]))
(;B[dq]TR[dq];W[bo];B[bn];W[ap];B[cn]))
(;W[nd]))
(;B[cq]
C[i think the two white stones are dead now]
(;W[er];B[fr]
C[Maybe white to play at 3 next would have been best. ]
(;W[ds];B[fq];W[dq];B[cp]
(;W[br]
(;B[ep];W[aq]TR[br]
(;B[as];W[bs])
(;B[bs];W[as];B[ar];W[cs]))
(;B[aq];W[ep];B[fp];W[eo];B[fo]))
(;W[bs];B[aq];W[ar];B[br];W[ko];B[jo];W[bq];B[dr]
(;W[br];B[es];W[ap];B[bo])
(;W[jn];B[br];W[dq];B[fs];W[bq];B[dr];W[br];B[dq];W[ap])))
(;W[ar];B[bs];W[dr];B[fq];W[es];B[cs])
(;W[fq]
C[next 2 ]
(;B[gr];W[ep];B[dq])
(;B[dr];W[gr];B[es];W[jr];B[hq];W[hr];B[gq];W[iq];B[fp];W[ip];B[fm]
C[2 or 3 maybe better? ]
(;W[dk];B[ek];W[dl];B[el];W[cl];B[bk];W[bj];B[bl];W[bm];B[cm];W[dm];B[cn]
;W[ej];B[di];W[ei];B[dh];W[em];B[en])
(;W[ei])
(;W[fl];B[gl]TR[gl]
(;W[fk];B[gk];W[fj];B[gj];W[fi];B[gi];W[fg];B[gh];W[di];B[ci];W[ch];B[dh]
;W[bi];B[ei];W[dk]
(;B[ej])
(;B[ci];W[bf];B[bj];W[ag];B[cg]
C[bad for white]))
(;W[fn];B[gn];W[em];B[gm];W[fk];B[gk];W[fj];B[gj];W[fi];B[gi];W[fg];B[gh]
;W[dk];B[ei];W[ej];B[di];W[ci];B[dh];W[cl];B[bk];W[dl];B[bl];W[bm];B[bj]
;W[bi];B[ah];W[al];B[ai];W[dn];B[cn];W[cm];B[eo];W[en])))))
(;W[fr];B[er];W[dr];B[es];W[dq];B[cp];W[ep];B[fp];W[eo];B[fq]TR[fp];W[fo]
;B[gq];W[hp];B[hq];W[ip]TR[ip];B[iq];W[jq];B[jr];W[kq];B[kr])
(;W[ar];B[bs];W[er];B[fr];W[es];B[fq];W[dr];B[cs];W[dq];B[cp];W[ep];B[fp]
;W[eo];B[ap];W[aq]TR[ar];B[as];W[br];B[fs];W[ds];B[bs])))
(;B[ob]
(;W[ne];B[nf];W[mc];B[oc];W[nd];B[pa];W[kc];B[ld];W[lb];B[jb];W[kd];B[le]
TR[le];W[nb];B[oa];W[na];B[qa])
(;W[nb];B[pa];W[qa];B[oa];W[lb];B[kb];W[la];B[na]
C[don`t know if black can kill ];W[ne]
C[next 2 ! ]
(;B[me];W[nf]TR[nf];B[ng];W[of];B[pe];W[og];B[pg];W[oh])
(;B[nf];W[me]TR[me]
(;B[mc];W[kc];B[ld]
C[next 2 ]
(;W[le];B[kd])
(;W[jb]))
(;B[kc];W[mc])))))
(;B[cq];W[pe]
C[i think white can NOT kill the marked group ]TR[rb:rd][qc:qd][pd]
(;B[qe];W[pf];B[ne]
(;W[re];B[sc];W[rf];B[ra];W[me];B[nd];W[oc]
(;B[mc];W[nf]TR[nf])
(;B[nf];W[mf];B[ng];W[mc]))
(;W[rf];B[ra]
(;W[re]TR[rc])
(;W[sc];B[sb];W[qa];B[sd])))
(;B[pf];W[qe];B[pg];W[re];B[sc])))
(;W[qc]
(;B[qd])
(;B[pc]
C[I think 2 is better now.]
(;W[pb];B[ob];W[rb];B[pa];W[qb];B[oc]
(;W[jj]
C[If white tenuki, can black do anything?
];B[qd];W[rd];B[re];W[qe];B[sd]
;W[rc];B[rf];W[rg];B[qg];W[sf];B[pf];W[se]
C[But this is not so good for white, so maybe white should play different
]
;B[pg])
(;W[qd]
C[Tenuki looks not so good]))
(;W[qd]
(;B[qe];W[re];B[pe];W[qg])
(;B[og];W[qh]
(;B[qe];W[re];B[pe];W[qg])
(;B[pi];W[kd]))))))
(;B[nd];W[qc];B[pc];W[qd];B[pe];W[qb];B[pb];W[gc]))
(;W[ne]
C[The joseki sequence at "3" is from a pro game. ]
(;B[pf];W[qh];B[qg];W[ph];B[qk];W[pb];B[qc];W[qm];B[ok];W[qb];B[rb];W[ra]
;B[rd];W[mb];B[lb])
(;B[qf];W[qh]
(;B[oc];W[pk];B[nd];W[md];B[od];W[mc];B[me];W[ld];B[kc];W[le];B[mf])
(;B[qj];W[pb];B[qc];W[oh];B[pg];W[ph];B[og];W[ng];B[nh]
(;W[nf];B[ni])
(;W[ni];B[mh];W[nf];B[oi];W[pi];B[oj];W[pj];B[ok];W[pk];B[ol];W[pl];B[np]
)))
(;B[qg];W[le];B[ie];W[qi];B[oc];W[ob];B[pb];W[nb];B[of];W[qb];B[pa];W[kb]
;B[lb];W[nf];B[og];W[ig])))
(;W[cq];B[dq];W[cp];B[co];W[bo]
(;B[bn];W[cn];B[do];W[bm];B[bp];W[an];B[bq];W[dl])
(;B[cn];W[bn];B[cm];W[dr];B[er];W[cr];B[fq];W[hm];B[jk];W[gk];B[gh];W[jo]
;B[ko];W[kp];B[io];W[jn];B[jm];W[in]))
(;W[dn];B[fo]
C[white seems not very sucessfull, maybe san san would have been the better point]
))
(;W[cq]
(;B[dq];W[cp];B[co];W[bo];B[bn]
(;W[ap];B[cn];W[bq];B[cr];W[br];B[pj])
(;W[cn];B[do];W[bm];B[bp];W[an];B[bq];W[dl])
(;W[dr];B[er];W[br];B[bp];W[bq];B[ao];W[cs];B[aq];W[ar];B[es]
(;W[ds]
C[2 or 3 or 4 is needed ]
(;B[qj]
C[black should not tenuki];W[eq];B[fq];W[ep];B[do];W[fr])
(;B[fq])
(;B[eq])
(;B[fp];W[eq];B[fq];W[fr];B[ep]))
(;W[fp])))
(;B[cp];W[dq];B[eq];W[er];B[fr];W[fq]
(;B[dr];W[ep])
(;B[ep];W[gr];B[dr];W[fs];B[cr]
(;W[jr])
(;W[ho]
C[good for white
]))))
(;W[qf];B[re];W[qe];B[qd];W[rf]
(;B[np]
(;W[cq])
(;W[qj];B[cq]TR[dg][ck][dp][jp][np]))
(;B[cq])
(;B[jn];W[qj]))
(;W[ci];B[dj];W[ei];B[di];W[eh]
(;B[pj];W[dh];B[ch];W[bh];B[cg];W[bf];B[bg];W[ag];B[bi];W[eg];B[ah];W[be]
)
(;B[dh]))
(;W[jc];B[le];W[qf];B[re];W[pj];B[qh];W[of];B[pf];W[pg];B[pe];W[qg];B[qj]
;W[qk];B[pi];W[oi];B[oj];W[pk];B[oh];W[ni];B[ph];W[og];B[nh]))
(;W[cm];B[co];W[em];B[ek];W[ci]
C[Ok, that`s complicated... :)) ]))
(;GM[1]FF[4]SZ[19]AP[SmartGo Kifu:3.3]CA[utf-8]
GN[1957-07-02a]
PW[Go Seigen]WR[9d]
PB[Sakata Eio]BR[9d]
EV[1st Nihon Saikyo League]RO[Round 6 of 10]
DT[1957-07-02,03]
RE[W+4]
CP[GoGoD Collection Copyright © 2001-2014 John Fairbairn. All rights reserved.]
CH[1];B[qd];W[dc];B[pq];W[dq];B[oc];W[po];B[qo];W[pp];B[qp];W[oq];B[pn];W[qq]
;B[pr];W[rq];B[or];W[np];B[nq];W[qn];B[op];W[oo];B[no];W[on];B[mp];W[do]
;B[de];W[ce];B[cf];W[cd];B[dg];W[ef];B[df];W[ed];B[cl];W[ee];B[eg];W[cn]
;B[el];W[kd];B[gg];W[cj];B[dk];W[bm];B[bl];W[ph];B[pm];W[ro];B[qm];W[rp]
;B[rn];W[pk];B[ol];W[nn];B[qf];W[qg];B[pf];W[rl];B[ok];W[pj];B[mk];W[lo]
;B[oi];W[hf];B[kb];W[fk];B[fl];W[hk];B[gl];W[oj];B[nj];W[ni];B[mi];W[nh]
;B[ic];W[nc];B[lc];W[mh];B[li];W[ob];B[pc];W[md];B[ld];W[me];B[le];W[lf]
;B[kf];W[lg];B[kg];W[lh];B[kh];W[ki];B[mm];W[ih];B[mn];W[mo];B[np];W[kj]
;B[qo];W[sn];B[kk];W[nm];B[ml];W[jk];B[kl];W[lj];B[mj];W[id];B[ke];W[fi]
;B[ej];W[im];B[jn];W[ei];B[di];W[ip];B[hd];W[ie];B[gc];W[jc];B[jb];W[hb]
;B[hc];W[gf];B[eb];W[fb];B[fc];W[ec];B[gb];W[kq];B[lp];W[db];B[kp];W[dj]
;B[ci];W[ek];B[bj];W[ea];B[qi];W[pi];B[og];W[oh];B[mb];W[rg];B[nf];W[mf]
;B[ho];W[hp];B[bo];W[fj];B[cp];W[dp];B[cq];W[nb];B[pb];W[jq];B[dr];W[er]
;B[cr];W[go];B[sm];W[so];B[gn];W[jo];B[io];W[fn];B[hn];W[jp];B[ko];W[fo]
;B[ff];W[gm];B[hl];W[fe];B[fg];W[he];B[hj];W[hi];B[gk];W[ij];B[ik];W[hm]
;B[gi];W[gj];B[gh];W[hk];B[rm];W[qr];B[hj];W[nl];B[nk];W[hk];B[sr];W[sq]
;B[hj];W[ck];B[dl];W[hk];B[rs];W[qs];B[hj];W[bk];B[ak];W[hk];B[ej];W[il]
;B[es];W[fr];B[rk];W[rj];B[sj];W[qk];B[sk];W[re];B[rd];W[si];B[sl];W[ga]
;B[jh];W[ha];B[ia];W[rf];B[ri];W[od];B[pd];W[jm];B[fs];W[kn];B[ln];W[pa]
;B[qa];W[na];B[oa];W[gs];B[ds];W[pa];B[rb];W[ma];B[la];W[fa];B[ib];W[ka]
;B[mc];W[lb];B[ig];W[hg];B[la];W[qe];B[pe];W[lb];B[hh];W[ii];B[la];W[qb]
;B[qc];W[lb];B[ji];W[jj];B[la];W[bf];B[bg];W[lb];B[kc];W[jd];B[la];W[be]
;B[gr];W[lb];B[da];W[ca];B[la];W[hs];B[ja];W[jr];B[lr];W[bn];B[ag];W[sh]
;B[qj];W[co];B[bp];W[lq];B[mr];W[km];B[ps];W[qp];B[om];W[qn];B[kr];W[js]
;B[qo];W[ao];B[br];W[qn];B[oa];W[nd];B[qo];W[if];B[dj];W[qn];B[eq];W[fq]
;B[qo];W[jg];B[af];W[ae];B[rh];W[sg];B[se];W[ng];B[qn];W[eh];B[dh];W[ql]
;B[jf];W[ks];B[ap];W[ls];B[ms];W[en];B[ig];W[jl];B[an];W[am];B[dm];W[lk]
;B[ll];W[jg])
This game record was from the Gogood-Database.So... next here is the game i played with/against :) BenGoZen ... enjoy!
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[1800]OT[20/360 Canadian]
PW[bengozen]PB[eyecatcher]WR[3k]BR[5k]DT[2014-03-07]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[bengozen [3k\]: Have a good game!
eyecatcher [5k\]: so, have anice game
eyecatcher [5k\]: I`m happy that we finally play :)
]RE[W+25.50]
;B[jj]BL[1764.022]C[bengozen [3k\]: Haha
eyecatcher [5k\]: :)
bengozen [3k\]: And looks like our first game will be a crazy one
eyecatcher [5k\]: don` laugh at tengen
]
;W[oe]WL[1734.01]C[eyecatcher [5k\]: :D
bengozen [3k\]: Oh I don't laugh at tengen.
bengozen [3k\]: I welcome the challenge!
eyecatcher [5k\]: just kidding
eyecatcher [5k\]: nice answer
]
;B[dp]BL[1703.432]
;W[dd]WL[1708.721]
;B[pp]BL[1693.466]
;W[qn]WL[1643.432]
;B[np]BL[1678.285]
;W[pj]WL[1627.509]
;B[pd]BL[1616.492]
;W[qc]WL[1605.121]
;B[pe]BL[1603.889]
;W[pc]WL[1596.304]
;B[ph]BL[1586.785]
;W[od]WL[1578.394]
;B[of]BL[1541.954]
;W[nf]WL[1555.883]
;B[og]BL[1509.95]
;W[me]WL[1535.941]
;B[lc]BL[1484.23]
;W[jc]WL[1522.07]
;B[nc]BL[1431.228]
;W[oc]WL[1513.479]
;B[kd]BL[1393.092]
;W[kf]WL[1489.849]
;B[jd]BL[1310.817]
;W[ic]WL[1383.873]
;B[jf]BL[1293.625]
;W[jg]WL[1340.914]
;B[if]BL[1220.946]
;W[id]WL[1328.024]
;B[kg]BL[1195.143]
;W[kh]WL[1314.597]
;B[lg]BL[1185.528]
;W[lf]WL[1313.461]
;B[je]BL[1150.351]
;W[jh]WL[1300.814]
;B[lh]BL[1114.608]
;W[hh]WL[1264.9]
;B[nd]BL[1092.889]
;W[nb]WL[1243.023]
;B[mb]BL[1080.664]
;W[ld]WL[1210.904]C[eyecatcher [5k\]: interesting situation
bengozen [3k\]: indeed!
]
;B[ob]BL[691.388]
;W[kc]WL[1203.652]
;B[md]BL[675.909]
;W[le]WL[1197.355]
;B[na]BL[666.933]
;W[ne]WL[1187.187]
;B[gf]BL[597.07]
;W[fh]WL[1171.588]
;B[fd]BL[554.053]
;W[lb]WL[1165.525]
;B[mc]BL[510.264]
;W[ka]WL[1151.778]C[eyecatcher [5k\]: i missed this move, simple but stong, tough for black now
bengozen [3k\]: i was debating on its timing
]
;B[pb]BL[424.676]
;W[qb]WL[1145.778]
;B[pa]BL[412.279]
;W[ma]WL[1083.701]C[eyecatcher [5k\]: of course!
]
;B[la]BL[394.269]
;W[fe]WL[1075.639]
;B[kb]BL[382.229]
;W[ff]WL[1050.978]
;B[gg]BL[362.873]
;W[ei]WL[1034.35]
;B[gh]BL[349.684]
;W[gi]WL[1032.152]
;B[hi]BL[343.994]
;W[hg]WL[1000.857]
;B[ge]BL[281.317]C[thesirjay [7k\]: appears b has this
]
;W[gd]WL[986.198]
;B[hd]BL[273.87]
;W[gc]WL[983.467]C[thesirjay [7k\]: ah I misread
]
;B[cc]BL[240.332]
;W[cd]WL[939.319]
;B[fc]BL[226.73]C[moboy78 [4k\]: b very greedy
]
;W[gb]WL[923.57]C[thesirjay [7k\]: thought he got it all there
thesirjay [7k\]: but the H16 atar wasn't effective
]
;B[dc]BL[186.217]
;W[eb]WL[878.889]
;B[ed]BL[125.235]
;W[df]WL[853.568]
;B[bd]BL[115.322]C[moboy78 [4k\]: b is making to many groups :P
]
;W[be]WL[755.571]C[Johnboy [2k?\]: hey there
thesirjay [7k\]: can he find a tesuji
thesirjay [7k\]: Hi Johnboy :)
moboy78 [4k\]: hi
Johnboy [2k?\]: ho jay
Johnboy [2k?\]: hi*
]
;B[bb]BL[55.337]
;W[ad]WL[744.388]
;B[ac]BL[38.885]C[thesirjay [7k\]: bad ko for w?
]
;W[bc]WL[740.704]C[moboy78 [4k\]: b cant hope to win the ko
thesirjay [7k\]: I guess not
moboy78 [4k\]: p13 stones make this a cake walk for w
thesirjay [7k\]: f13 nice threat
thesirjay [7k\]: although maybe not enough eyes yet...
]
;B[hf]BL[301.377]OB[19]
;W[ab]WL[672.905]
;B[ih]BL[294.3]OB[18]
;W[li]WL[670.228]
;B[ki]BL[276.15]OB[17]C[thesirjay [7k\]: hunh
thesirjay [7k\]: what is be thinking here I am puzzled
]
;W[ji]WL[642.203]
;B[gj]BL[251.78]OB[16]
;W[mh]WL[586.254]
;B[ni]BL[229.383]OB[15]
;W[kj]WL[578.386]
;B[ql]BL[222.93]OB[14]
;W[qq]WL[574.168]
;B[qp]BL[218.988]OB[13]
;W[rp]WL[566.491]
;B[ro]BL[211.387]OB[12]
;W[rq]WL[563.014]
;B[qo]BL[209.843]OB[11]
;W[or]WL[562.085]
;B[fg]BL[174.415]OB[10]
;W[fi]WL[549.704]
;B[ig]BL[151.793]OB[9]
;W[eg]WL[545.581]
;B[fb]BL[127.155]OB[8]
;W[fa]WL[529.635]
;B[de]BL[123.488]OB[7]
;W[ce]WL[522.78]
;B[dj]BL[81.85]OB[6]
;W[fk]WL[489.581]
;B[ii]BL[76.882]OB[5]
;W[mg]WL[484.689]
;B[dm]BL[64.505]OB[4]
;W[ci]WL[465.962]
;B[fj]BL[24.336]OB[3]
;W[ej]WL[459.742]
;B[gk]BL[17.722]OB[2]
;W[fl]WL[451.668]
;B[dk]BL[14.25]OB[1]
;W[gl]WL[442.922]
;B[hk]BL[360]OB[20]
;W[hl]WL[440.474]
;B[ik]BL[355.366]OB[19]
;W[ek]WL[437.93]
;B[di]BL[351.844]OB[18]
;W[dh]WL[433.714]
;B[cj]BL[343.112]OB[17]
;W[cq]WL[426.238]
;B[ch]BL[332.28]OB[16]
;W[cp]WL[398.7]
;B[co]BL[328.624]OB[15]
;W[bo]WL[396.47]
;B[cn]BL[323.202]OB[14]
;W[dq]WL[392.083]
;B[nl]BL[310.487]OB[13]
;W[re]WL[367.59]
;B[rg]BL[298.996]OB[12]
;W[qf]WL[346.278]
;B[pf]BL[282.298]OB[11]
;W[qg]WL[342.393]
;B[qh]BL[280.828]OB[10]
;W[nj]WL[333.792]
;B[oj]BL[266.212]OB[9]
;W[ok]WL[326.313]
;B[oi]BL[262.692]OB[8]
;W[nk]WL[323.55]
;B[pk]BL[260.963]OB[7]
;W[pl]WL[319.871]
;B[qk]BL[258.768]OB[6]
;W[ml]WL[313.114]
;B[pm]BL[254.64]OB[5]
;W[ol]WL[309.572]
;B[om]BL[251.814]OB[4]
;W[so]WL[303.164]
;B[sn]BL[248.116]OB[3]
;W[sp]WL[302.229]
;B[rn]BL[245.645]OB[2]
;W[ep]WL[280.211]
;B[fq]BL[240.768]OB[1]
;W[hq]WL[269.864]
;B[do]BL[360]OB[20]
;W[eq]WL[266.634]
;B[gp]BL[358.063]OB[19]
;W[hp]WL[255.451]
;B[go]BL[353.56]OB[18]
;W[fn]WL[245.092]
;B[ho]BL[348.75]OB[17]
;W[io]WL[242.282]
;B[ip]BL[347.137]OB[16]
;W[jo]WL[232.608]
;B[iq]BL[345.037]OB[15]
;W[hr]WL[189.179]
;B[ir]BL[326.504]OB[14]
;W[fr]WL[172.113]
;B[gr]BL[319.811]OB[13]
;W[fp]WL[158.47]
;B[gq]BL[313.942]OB[12]
;W[cl]WL[156.042]
;B[dl]BL[296.737]OB[11]
;W[bn]WL[153.942]
;B[bm]BL[295.022]OB[10]
;W[bl]WL[143.059]
;B[cm]BL[281.433]OB[9]
;W[am]WL[140.837]
;B[bp]BL[277.303]OB[8]
;W[al]WL[109.385]
;B[bk]BL[271.297]OB[7]
;W[ap]WL[72.12]
;B[ak]BL[257.939]OB[6]
;W[bq]WL[63.557]
;B[ck]BL[246.656]OB[5]
;W[an]WL[61.655]
;B[bi]BL[242.922]OB[4]C[eyecatcher [5k\]: bad move
thesirjay [7k\]: did seem small
thesirjay [7k\]: had mia for life with E6
]
;W[kr]WL[12.469]C[bengozen [3k\]: For the spectators, he got DC'ed
bengozen [3k\]: he's trying to get on and hopefully wil be on soon
eyecatcher [5k\]: ok
eyecatcher [5k\]: sorry
]
;B[im]BL[58.632]OB[3]
;W[er]WL[342.39]OW[19]C[bengozen [3k\]: no problem
]
;B[hs]BL[45.591]OB[2]
;W[hq]WL[339.902]OW[18]
;B[kq]BL[40.894]OB[1]
;W[lr]WL[319.161]OW[17]
;B[kp]BL[360]OB[20]
;W[mp]WL[300.48]OW[16]
;B[lm]BL[356.96]OB[19]
;W[nm]WL[283.318]OW[15]
;B[nr]BL[351.412]OB[18]
;W[oq]WL[266.825]OW[14]
;B[nq]BL[348.715]OB[17]
;W[op]WL[255.61]OW[13]
;B[no]BL[325.529]OB[16]
;W[oo]WL[251.629]OW[12]
;B[pr]BL[316.279]OB[15]
;W[pq]WL[244.142]OW[11]
;B[os]BL[313.925]OB[14]
;W[qr]WL[237.548]OW[10]
;B[mn]BL[300.975]OB[13]
;W[pn]WL[229.929]OW[9]
;B[qm]BL[289.901]OB[12]
;W[ps]WL[224.948]OW[8]
;B[ns]BL[277.833]OB[11]
;W[jm]WL[192.033]OW[7]
;B[in]BL[233.829]OB[10]
;W[il]WL[181.327]OW[6]
;B[jl]BL[226.503]OB[9]
;W[jn]WL[178.132]OW[5]
;B[hn]BL[222.906]OB[8]
;W[kl]WL[175.681]OW[4]
;B[jk]BL[221.111]OB[7]
;W[km]WL[173.538]OW[3]
;B[kk]BL[211.182]OB[6]
;W[ll]WL[166.472]OW[2]
;B[mj]BL[197.893]OB[5]
;W[mk]WL[160.419]OW[1]
;B[mi]BL[177.166]OB[4]
;W[nn]WL[360]OW[20]
;B[on]BL[161.731]OB[3]
;W[mo]WL[333.44]OW[19]
;B[mq]BL[146.642]OB[2]
;W[lo]WL[312.764]OW[18]
;B[lp]BL[95.84]OB[1]
;W[ko]WL[300.064]OW[17]
;B[lq]BL[360]OB[20]
;W[jp]WL[295.907]OW[16]
;B[jq]BL[347.589]OB[19]
;W[po]WL[292.237]OW[15]
;B[rm]BL[344.518]OB[18]
;W[rf]WL[288.138]OW[14]
;B[jb]BL[339.613]OB[17]
;W[ib]WL[284.603]OW[13]
;B[db]BL[327.547]OB[16]
;W[da]WL[268.575]OW[12]
;B[ca]BL[316.784]OB[15]
;W[ee]WL[253.239]OW[11]
;B[cg]BL[278.616]OB[14]
;W[ah]WL[241.806]OW[10]
;B[qa]BL[252.953]OB[13]
;W[en]WL[226.069]OW[9]
;B[bh]BL[245.905]OB[12]
;W[ag]WL[206.373]OW[8]
;B[ai]BL[217.546]OB[11]
;W[bf]WL[204.133]OW[7]
;B[rb]BL[213.151]OB[10]
;W[rh]WL[189.24]OW[6]
;B[ri]BL[205.093]OB[9]
;W[sg]WL[188.044]OW[5]
;B[si]BL[194.09]OB[8]
;W[sh]WL[174.022]OW[4]
;B[rd]BL[189.149]OB[7]
;W[qd]WL[166.548]OW[3]
;B[rc]BL[179.331]OB[6]
;W[qe]WL[164.189]OW[2]C[eyecatcher [5k\]: i` allways to laazy to count , i think your leading... maybe with 20 points and i should resign... oh man, this counting allways a problem :))
]
;B[ja]BL[129.187]OB[5]C[bengozen [3k\]: eh?
bengozen [3k\]: i'm not even sure i'm winning
bengozen [3k\]: hahaha
eyecatcher [5k\]: so you did not count as well haha
]
;W[lj]WL[116.279]OW[1]C[eyecatcher [5k\]: i would bet on white
]
;B[nh]BL[107.896]OB[4]
;W[pg]WL[360]OW[20]C[bengozen [3k\]: your play on the bottom was excellent
bengozen [3k\]: i didn't expect to get cut off
]
;B[qj]BL[63.491]OB[3]
;W[ng]WL[351.941]OW[19]C[eyecatcher [5k\]: and you did not Ö
]
;B[oh]BL[53.922]OB[2]C[eyecatcher [5k\]: :)
]
;W[bg]WL[332.871]OW[18]
;B[rs]BL[48.887]OB[1]C[eyecatcher [5k\]: maybe seki.. don` knoe
eyecatcher [5k\]: know
]
;W[rr]WL[305.925]OW[17]
;B[sr]BL[360]OB[20]C[eyecatcher [5k\]: no :)
]
;W[dg]WL[279.732]OW[16]
;B[ia]BL[355.789]OB[19]C[bengozen [3k\]: haha you had me questioning it for a second too
]
;W[ha]WL[275.726]OW[15]
;B[hc]BL[344.676]OB[18]
;W[hb]WL[271.848]OW[14]
;B[he]BL[335.959]OB[17]
;W[fs]WL[258.971]OW[13]
;B[se]BL[328.016]OB[16]
;W[sf]WL[255.372]OW[12]
;B[sd]BL[325.326]OB[15]C[eyecatcher [5k\]: i would say white 10 or 15 or 20 +
eyecatcher [5k\]: without counting
]
;W[gn]WL[225.711]OW[11]C[eyecatcher [5k\]: just my guess
]
;B[fo]BL[315.616]OB[14]
;W[em]WL[216.09]OW[10]
;B[hm]BL[312.477]OB[13]
;W[gm]WL[214.766]OW[9]
;B[]BL[312.475]OB[12]
;W[]WL[214.765]OW[8]TW[aa][ba][ca][ea][ga][bb][cb][db][fb][ac][cc][dc][ec][fc][bd][ed][fd][ae][de][af][ef][mf][kg][lg][rg][eh][lh][ki][nl][fm][lm][mm][kn][ln][mn][ao][bp][aq][sq][ar][br][cr][dr][pr][sr][as][bs][cs][ds][es][qs][rs][ss]TB[ka][ma][oa][ra][sa][lb][nb][sb][sc][hg][hh][ci][pi][qi][aj][bj][hj][ij][pj][rj][sj][rk][sk][rl][sl][sm][hp][hq][hr][jr][kr][lr][mr][is][js][ks][ls][ms]C[bengozen [3k\]: thank you for the game
eyecatcher [5k\]: nice
bengozen [3k\]: whew...
bengozen [3k\]: that was CRAZYYY
eyecatcher [5k\]: thank you
eyecatcher [5k\]: yes nice game
bengozen [3k\]: never playing 5-5 again
bengozen [3k\]: xD
bengozen [3k\]: haha not exactly
bengozen [3k\]: but that was really challenging...
bengozen [3k\]: i think the game would have been very different if you connected
])
“You should look at the board and play wherever you want to. This is the way to get stronger.” Takemiya Masaki
Wednesday, March 5, 2014
Why Do You Play Go?!
Recentyl i was writing this tweet
and got some interesting replies which i want to share here!
(some people send their answers after the post was published, feel free to send me your answers via Twitter or the comment section, i will add them as well)
Nate was sending a good one via the comment section of this post:
"I play go because it's beautiful, difficult, and provides a long, steady path of discrete rewards and challenges."
(some people send their answers after the post was published, feel free to send me your answers via Twitter or the comment section, i will add them as well)
Nate was sending a good one via the comment section of this post:
"I play go because it's beautiful, difficult, and provides a long, steady path of discrete rewards and challenges."
Follow Up Post / Tengen & 3 San Sans
I got some interesting feedback to the game in the previous post.
@iGoPau from the iGoPau Go Club in France ( https://www.facebook.com/iGo.Pau) was so kind to write some comments in the SGF file. The new comments from @iGoPau are always beginning with "hq:"
@LevelOneDev was sharing a wonderfull youtube video lesson of @GoDwyrin "Bat" about this tengen+san san fuseki.
Thank`s a lot to both of you for this very usefull feedback!
“Competition and faith are my life-long vocations. Like water and fire, I depend on both. When I couldn’t outrank the others, it was time for me to leave. There are two things in my life, truth and Go.” Go Seigen
@iGoPau from the iGoPau Go Club in France ( https://www.facebook.com/iGo.Pau) was so kind to write some comments in the SGF file. The new comments from @iGoPau are always beginning with "hq:"
@LevelOneDev was sharing a wonderfull youtube video lesson of @GoDwyrin "Bat" about this tengen+san san fuseki.
Thank`s a lot to both of you for this very usefull feedback!
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
GN[2014-03-01a]PW[eyecatcher]PB[ibm009009]WR[4k]BR[4k]RE[B+Resign]
;B[jj]C[I tried to answer to tengen with something a bit more unusual than 3/4 or 4/4 :)]
;W[qc]
;B[pd]C[But we played rather fast, i think it was something like 10 min each ...]
;W[qd]
;B[pe]C[Ok being pushed on the third line is ok i guess... some territorry (may) arise... but of course one should not forget the power of the stone at tengen.]
;W[qe]
(;B[pc]
;W[pf]
(;B[of]
;W[pg]
;B[og]C[Being pushed on the forth line should be even better...]
;W[ph]
;B[jd]C[I like these kind of slow looking but (in the best case) powerfull moves.]
;W[oh]
;B[qb]C[play tenuki]
;W[pp]
;B[qq]C[This is a interesting style ... play tengen first... every time white plays 4/4 invade san san (= 3/3 point) immediately. Maybe you think this fuseki is strange, but why not? I will try it out myself.]
;W[qp]
;B[pq]
;W[oq]
;B[or]
;W[nq]
;B[nr]
(;W[mr]C[hq: that move is a mistake. You rarely can play that hane because initial white plan is to be very thick !
Here tengen just made it worse.]
;B[rp]
;W[ro]
;B[rq]LB[qo:A][mq:B]C[hq: Black has no idea how to protect here A and B.]
;W[mp]
;B[pl]C[This allready some kind of loosing move? I regret, i think i should have protected the weakness at R5]
(;W[nl]
;B[qo]
(;W[qn]LB[rn:A][mr:B]SQ[pp][qp]C[hq: if white wants to sacrifice the 2 marked stones, then it's better not playing the atari.
it's similar to B move.]
;B[po]
;W[pn]
;B[op]C[If i would have been in a not so good mood maybe i would have resigned here.]
;W[on]
;B[oj]
;W[mh]C[hq: this is a good move.]
;B[mj]
;W[ne]
;B[oe]
;W[md]
;B[mb]
;W[nb]
;B[nc]
;W[mc]
;B[ob]
;W[lb]
;B[na]C[I played very risky and agressive, because i thought i would not have a chance if not, because of the desaster at the right side...]
;W[kd]LB[kc:A]C[hq: it's better to play that move at A.]
;B[jc]
;W[kc]LB[jc:1][kd:2]C[hq: it's similar to play the 1 for 2 exchange. ]
;B[jb]
;W[dd]
;B[cc]
;W[cd]
;B[dc]
;W[ed]
;B[fb]
;W[dp]
(;B[cq]LB[cj:A]C[I played 3 times at the 4/4 point ... every time he invaded san-san... i`m too weak in my kyu mind to understand how to really deal with this...
hq: that move is badly timed, black should have played at A.]
(;W[dq]C[hq: to me this the wrong direction of play.
End of commentary. ]
;B[cp]
;W[co]
;B[do]
;W[dn]
;B[eo]
;W[bo]
;B[dr]
;W[eq]
;B[er]
;W[fq]
;B[fr]
;W[gq]
;B[bp]
;W[br]
;B[cr]
;W[en]
;B[fo]
;W[cm]
;B[lq]
;W[jp]
;B[ho]
;W[lp]
;B[kq]
;W[hp]
;B[lr]
;W[io]
;B[hn]C[i still was willing to fight :) Last comment.]
;W[kh]
;B[mf]
;W[kf]
;B[mg]
;W[ni]
;B[nj]
;W[kj]
;B[li]
;W[ki]
;B[lh]
;W[lg]
;B[lf]
;W[kg]
;B[qj]
;W[je]
;B[rh]
;W[rg]
;B[qh]
;W[rb]
;B[ra]
;W[sc]
;B[rm]
;W[eb]
;B[ec]
;W[gc]
;B[fc]
;W[hc]
;B[fd]
;W[fe]
;B[ga]
;W[ge]
;B[bd]
;W[be]
;B[bc]
;W[cf]
;B[gj]
;W[ej]
;B[ao]
;W[bn]
;B[ml]
;W[aq]
;B[ap]
;W[lj]
;B[mi]
;W[mq]
;B[ms]
;W[ln]
;B[mn]
;W[no]
;B[nm]
;W[ol]
;B[om]
;W[gr]
;B[fs]
;W[il]
;B[jm]
;W[in]
;B[im]
;W[hm]
;B[hl]
;W[gm]
;B[gl]
;W[fm]
;B[jl]
;W[ik]
;B[ij]
;W[fk]
;B[hj]
;W[gk]
;B[hk]
;W[kk]
;B[jk]
;W[kl]
;B[kn]
;W[lm]
;B[ko]
;W[kp]
;B[lo]
;W[mo]
;B[ig]
;W[hh]
;B[ei]
;W[ih]
;B[gh]
;W[fj]
;B[fi]
;W[hi]
;B[gi]
;W[eg]
;B[hg]
;W[jg]
;B[fl]
;W[el]
;B[dj]
;W[ek]
;B[dh]
;W[ci]
;B[di]
;W[bj]
;B[fg]
;W[eh]
;B[ie]
;W[if]
;B[hf]
;W[he]
;B[jf]
;W[gf]
;B[gg]
;W[if]
;B[ef]
;W[dg]
;B[jf]
;W[pr]
;B[ke]
;W[mm]
;B[qr]
;W[rn]
;B[rl]
;W[mk]
;B[nh]
;W[pi]
;B[rf]
;W[re]
;B[qg]
;W[qi]
;B[ri]
;W[pj]
;B[qk]
;W[pk]
;B[ok]
;W[qf]
;B[sg]
;W[rj]
;B[rk]
;W[se]
;B[rd]C[ibm009009 [4k: gg eyecatcher [4k: thank you])
(;W[cp]
;B[dq]
;W[fq]
;B[fr]
;W[dj]C[hq: this way, white is happy.]))
(;B[cj]LB[dp:A][lq:B]TR[lb][kc][mc][kd][md][ne]SQ[cd][dd][ed]C[hq: If black plays here, then white is gonna regrets his move (overplay) at A. Because now marked stones are still weak, the marked wall is kind of useless and it will be hard to build on bottom because of B weakness. ]))
(;W[rn]
;B[po]
;W[pm]
;B[op]
;W[om]C[hq: this is better than game. ]))
(;W[qn]
;B[oj]
;W[dp]
;B[ri]
;W[qi]
;B[qj]
;W[rh]
;B[rj]
;W[mh]
;B[rc]
;W[rd]
;B[rb]
(;W[rf])
(;W[dd]
;B[rf]
;W[qf]
;B[sf]
;W[se]
;B[sh]
;W[sg]
;B[rg]
;W[qh])))
(;W[mq]
;B[rp]
;W[ro]
;B[rq]
;W[qn]C[hq: this is good enough and white doesn't has to care about a cut.
It's also harder for black to reduce.]))
(;B[qf]
;W[qg]
;B[rf]
;W[rg]
;B[pg]C[hq: that kind of move is terrible because black is broking himself his shape !]
;W[of]
(;B[nd]
(;W[re])
(;W[pp]
(;B[og]
;W[re])
(;B[re]
;W[rd]
;B[qb]
;W[se]
;B[rc]
;W[sf])))
(;B[re]
;W[rd]
;B[qb]
;W[rb]
;B[sd]
;W[rc]
;B[pb]
;W[se]LB[me:A][sf:B]C[hq: tenuki is possible here, by example A. And locally it's better to play B :)]
;B[sf]
;W[sg]))
(;B[qb]
;W[rb]
;B[pb]
;W[qg]C[hq: better than game but still looks like black doesn't use the center stone as its best.]))
(;B[pf]C[hq: this was more natural I think. ]))
“Competition and faith are my life-long vocations. Like water and fire, I depend on both. When I couldn’t outrank the others, it was time for me to leave. There are two things in my life, truth and Go.” Go Seigen
Sunday, March 2, 2014
Game Review / Tengen & 3 San-Sans
Hi there, today just a very quick and dirty game review of one kind of unique game. I was white and my opponent started with tengen... everytime i played 4/4 he invaded san-san... how would you have played?
(;AP[Go Eye by http://e-intuit.hk]BR[4k]C[ibm009009 [4k\]: gg
eyecatcher [4k\]: Hi, good game for you]CA[UTF-8]CH[1]DT[2014-03-01]FF[4]GM[1]GN[2014-03-01a]KM[6.5]OT[5x20 byo-yomi]PB[ibm009009]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]PW[eyecatcher]RE[B+Resign]RU[Japanese]ST[2]SZ[19]TM[600.0]WR[4k];B[jj]BL[598.6];C[I tried to answer to tengen with something a bit more unusual than 3/4 or 4/4 :)]W[qc]WL[594.9];B[pd]BL[597.1]C[This was a unique game];C[But we played rather fast, i think it was something like 10 min each ...]W[qd]WL[591.9];B[pe]BL[595.7]C[this is only a quick and dirty review.];C[Ok being pushed on the third line is ok i guess... some territorry (may) arise... but of course one should not forget the power of the stone at tengen.]W[qe]WL[590.4];B[pc]BL[594.0];W[pf]WL[588.7](;B[of]BL[592.5];W[pg]WL[586.7];B[og]BL[590.9]C[Being pushed on the forth line should be even better...];W[ph]WL[584.5];B[jd]BL[587.7];C[I like these kind of slow looking but (in the best case) powerfull moves.]W[oh]WL[577.8];B[qb]BL[585.7]C[That was very unexpected... sente? I choosed to...];C[play tenuki]W[pp]WL[574.8];B[qq]BL[583.5]C[This is a interesting style ... play tengen first... every time white plays 4/4 invade san san (= 3/3 point) immediately. Maybe you think this fuseki is strange, but why not? I will try it out myself.];W[qp]WL[569.0];B[pq]BL[581.9];W[oq]WL[563.0];B[or]BL[580.3];W[nq]WL[560.8];B[nr]BL[579.5];W[mr]WL[551.9];B[rp]BL[577.0];W[ro]WL[550.0];B[rq]BL[576.3];W[mp]WL[541.4];B[pl]BL[574.2]C[Black prepares to play at R5 ... i was careless here.](;C[This allready some kind of loosing move? I regret, i think i should have protected the weakness at R5]W[nl]WL[532.1];B[qo]BL[570.6];W[qn]WL[528.7];B[po]BL[569.0];W[pn]WL[527.9];B[op]BL[567.3]C[If i would have been in a not so good mood maybe i would have resigned here.];W[on]WL[523.5];B[oj]BL[560.9];W[mh]WL[520.8];B[mj]BL[559.0];W[ne]WL[515.1];B[oe]BL[557.1];W[md]WL[502.9];B[mb]BL[552.1];W[nb]WL[498.8];B[nc]BL[550.0];W[mc]WL[497.8];B[ob]BL[547.6];W[lb]WL[496.3];B[na]BL[546.2];C[I played very risky and agressive, because i thought i would not have a chance if not, because of the desaster at the right side...]W[kd]WL[490.4];B[jc]BL[541.5];W[kc]WL[486.3];B[jb]BL[539.6];W[dd]WL[480.4];B[cc]BL[536.8];W[cd]WL[476.4];B[dc]BL[535.0];W[ed]WL[475.0];B[fb]BL[533.1];W[dp]WL[472.9];B[cq]BL[530.9]C[I played 3 times at the 4/4 point ... every time he invaded san-san... i`m too weak in my kyu mind to understand how to really deal with this...];W[dq]WL[470.2];B[cp]BL[528.9];W[co]WL[468.9];B[do]BL[527.1];W[dn]WL[467.2];B[eo]BL[525.4];W[bo]WL[465.0];B[dr]BL[523.5];W[eq]WL[461.1];B[er]BL[521.6];W[fq]WL[459.8];B[fr]BL[520.0];W[gq]WL[458.4];B[bp]BL[518.2];W[br]WL[443.5];B[cr]BL[516.5];W[en]WL[438.8];B[fo]BL[514.6];W[cm]WL[428.8];B[lq]BL[512.7];W[jp]WL[425.6];B[ho]BL[508.6];W[lp]WL[422.9];B[kq]BL[506.5];W[hp]WL[421.3];B[lr]BL[503.1];W[io]WL[415.5];B[hn]BL[501.3];C[i still was willing to fight :)
Last comment.]W[kh]WL[411.0];B[mf]BL[498.2];W[kf]WL[401.4];B[mg]BL[493.4];W[ni]WL[398.1];B[nj]BL[488.7];W[kj]WL[395.4];B[li]BL[486.0];W[ki]WL[392.8];B[lh]BL[484.6];W[lg]WL[390.4];B[lf]BL[483.7];W[kg]WL[387.5];B[qj]BL[479.6];W[je]WL[380.0];B[rh]BL[476.9];W[rg]WL[377.6];B[qh]BL[475.3];W[rb]WL[370.9];B[ra]BL[472.9];W[sc]WL[366.8];B[rm]BL[457.9];W[eb]WL[339.7];B[ec]BL[452.6];W[gc]WL[307.1];B[fc]BL[449.4];W[hc]WL[294.2];B[fd]BL[441.4];W[fe]WL[290.8];B[ga]BL[428.7];W[ge]WL[277.7];B[bd]BL[421.5];W[be]WL[275.9];B[bc]BL[420.0];W[cf]WL[274.4];B[gj]BL[417.0];W[ej]WL[270.4];B[ao]BL[402.6];W[bn]WL[242.1];B[ml]BL[394.4];W[aq]WL[237.8];B[ap]BL[390.1];W[lj]WL[210.6];B[mi]BL[385.8];W[mq]WL[200.1];B[ms]BL[380.3];W[ln]WL[176.3];B[mn]BL[377.2];W[no]WL[171.1];B[nm]BL[370.2];W[ol]WL[159.4];B[om]BL[354.4];W[gr]WL[62.0];B[fs]BL[346.2];W[il]WL[8.0];B[jm]BL[341.4];W[in]WL[5.0];B[im]BL[338.4];W[hm]WL[2.6];B[hl]BL[326.9];W[gm]WL[1.2];B[gl]BL[325.5];OW[5]W[fm]WL[20.0];B[jl]BL[321.7];OW[5]W[ik]WL[20.0];B[ij]BL[317.5];OW[5]W[fk]WL[20.0];B[hj]BL[314.3];OW[5]W[gk]WL[20.0];B[hk]BL[312.1];OW[5]W[kk]WL[20.0];B[jk]BL[310.2];OW[5]W[kl]WL[20.0];B[kn]BL[308.2];OW[4]W[lm]WL[20.0];B[ko]BL[304.3];OW[4]W[kp]WL[20.0];B[lo]BL[302.4];OW[4]W[mo]WL[20.0];B[ig]BL[300.1];OW[3]W[hh]WL[20.0];B[ei]BL[296.7];OW[3]W[ih]WL[20.0];B[gh]BL[293.2];OW[3]W[fj]WL[20.0];B[fi]BL[290.5];OW[3]W[hi]WL[20.0];B[gi]BL[287.3];OW[3]W[eg]WL[20.0];B[hg]BL[277.1];OW[3]W[jg]WL[20.0];B[fl]BL[267.4];OW[3]W[el]WL[20.0];B[dj]BL[265.7];OW[3]W[ek]WL[20.0];B[dh]BL[260.9];OW[3]W[ci]WL[20.0];B[di]BL[259.3];OW[3]W[bj]WL[20.0];B[fg]BL[253.8];OW[3]W[eh]WL[20.0];B[ie]BL[249.1];OW[3]W[if]WL[20.0];B[hf]BL[247.5];OW[3]W[he]WL[20.0];B[jf]BL[245.4];OW[3]W[gf]WL[20.0];B[gg]BL[235.7];OW[3]W[if]WL[20.0];B[ef]BL[222.1];OW[3]W[dg]WL[20.0];B[jf]BL[219.6];OW[2]W[pr]WL[20.0];B[ke]BL[207.6];OW[2]W[mm]WL[20.0];B[qr]BL[203.5];OW[2]W[rn]WL[20.0];B[rl]BL[180.5];OW[2]W[mk]WL[20.0];B[nh]BL[165.9];OW[2]W[pi]WL[20.0];B[rf]BL[153.6];OW[2]W[re]WL[20.0];B[qg]BL[150.2];OW[1]W[qi]WL[20.0];B[ri]BL[138.1];OW[1]W[pj]WL[20.0];B[qk]BL[127.3];OW[1]W[pk]WL[20.0];B[ok]BL[122.3];OW[1]W[qf]WL[20.0];B[sg]BL[119.9];OW[1]W[rj]WL[20.0];B[rk]BL[116.4];OW[1]W[se]WL[20.0];B[rd]BL[89.5]C[ibm009009 [4k\]: gg
eyecatcher [4k\]: thank you])(;W[qn];B[oj];W[dp];B[ri];W[qi];B[qj];W[rh];B[rj];W[mh];B[rc];W[rd];B[rb](;W[rf])(;W[dd];B[rf];W[qf];B[sf];W[se];B[sh];W[sg];B[rg];W[qh])))(;B[qf];W[qg];B[rf];W[rg];B[pg];W[of](;B[nd](;W[re])(;W[pp](;B[og];W[re])(;B[re];W[rd];B[qb];W[se];B[rc];W[sf])))(;B[re];W[rd];B[qb];W[rb];B[sd];W[rc];B[pb];W[se];B[sf];W[sg])))
Saturday, March 1, 2014
Tsumego everywhere
It's been a while, when i was reading at the 19x19 Go forum in a post from John Fairbairn ( here is the post, some of you will allready know it: lifein19x19.com ) about a "new" or just very usefull method to solve tsumego aka. life and death problems.
To make a long story short: the advice here is to, first, remember and visualize the problem and than, second, to solve it only in your mind without any visual reference.
IYou should begin with very (very) easy positions and go on to more complex after you were able to solve the problem 100% without looking at a board&stones or a page with a printed problem or whatever...
You can do this in a lot of moments during your every day life where usually study tsumego is not possible... for example while washing the dishes.
Back when i first read about this technique my thought was "ok, good idea but i will never be able to do this, i will not even try this"
... but yesterday i somehow managed to, no — not to solve yet, but, as a first step, to memorize a position clearly in my mind.
That was a very exciting feeling... and i will try to continue today solving the problem.
It seems like a great method to improve reading, and it is fun! You should try yourself.
I think there may be 4 phases with this:
1. trying to visualize the position (remember start with very small and simple problems!)
2. beeing to able to visualize clearly
3. trying to solve
4. actually beeing able to solve the problem and doing it again with a bit more complex problem.
I'm in phase 3 :)
Good luck with trying this out and don't think you can't do it, you can! ;-)
Thursday, February 27, 2014
"Truth & Go" - about this blog
(Because i changed and added some content on the "About me & truth and go" page of this blog, i decided to post it here as a new update.)
I play Go since 2008 soon after seeing the movie "PI", in which one can find 2 Go related scenes, i joined the Go club in Hamburg (Germany) and became a enthusiastic player.
Also i only make slow progress, Go became a very important part of my life.
If i would have to pick 4 Go players i highly admire i would say:
Go Seigen, Honinbo Shuei, O Meien and Lee Sedol.
Mostly this decision comes not out of a deep understanding of their style, it´s a rather personal thing, i just feel sympathy for them, and somehow it came that i read in books about or from them.
Sometimes loosing one game after the other frustrates me ... than i feel how complex and hard to master this game is and doubt that i can become much stronger one day ... but playing, even if you loose, can be so much joy that i will never stop!
It fascinats me deeply how Go can be related to Asian philosophy like Taoism (Ying & Yang), Buddhism (Emptyness/dependent arising) and Confucianism (developing of virtue/modesty). I think while learning Go we can learn a lot about ourselves.
On this Blog i present mostly reviews of my own games as well
as some rather random things about Go that are comming through my mind, internet findings like Go pictures or Go videos, thoughts about Go philosophy etc. I don`t have neither time nor ability to write complex essays and high class reviews on a regular basis, thats why the subtitle of this blog is "random stuff about go"... so don`t expect to much. :-D
Why am i writing in English? I love to write in english because it is a nice feeling that by using english one can connect with Go players all over the world ... but i`m not a native speaker and my abilities to write in english are not very good ...
I once read this quote of Go Seigen and did like it a lot:
“Competition and faith are my life-long vocations. Like water and fire, I depend on both. When I couldn’t outrank the others, it was time for me to leave. There are two things in my life, truth and Go.”
I play Go since 2008 soon after seeing the movie "PI", in which one can find 2 Go related scenes, i joined the Go club in Hamburg (Germany) and became a enthusiastic player.
Also i only make slow progress, Go became a very important part of my life.
If i would have to pick 4 Go players i highly admire i would say:
Go Seigen, Honinbo Shuei, O Meien and Lee Sedol.
Mostly this decision comes not out of a deep understanding of their style, it´s a rather personal thing, i just feel sympathy for them, and somehow it came that i read in books about or from them.
Sometimes loosing one game after the other frustrates me ... than i feel how complex and hard to master this game is and doubt that i can become much stronger one day ... but playing, even if you loose, can be so much joy that i will never stop!
It fascinats me deeply how Go can be related to Asian philosophy like Taoism (Ying & Yang), Buddhism (Emptyness/dependent arising) and Confucianism (developing of virtue/modesty). I think while learning Go we can learn a lot about ourselves.
On this Blog i present mostly reviews of my own games as well
as some rather random things about Go that are comming through my mind, internet findings like Go pictures or Go videos, thoughts about Go philosophy etc. I don`t have neither time nor ability to write complex essays and high class reviews on a regular basis, thats why the subtitle of this blog is "random stuff about go"... so don`t expect to much. :-D
Why am i writing in English? I love to write in english because it is a nice feeling that by using english one can connect with Go players all over the world ... but i`m not a native speaker and my abilities to write in english are not very good ...
I once read this quote of Go Seigen and did like it a lot:
“Competition and faith are my life-long vocations. Like water and fire, I depend on both. When I couldn’t outrank the others, it was time for me to leave. There are two things in my life, truth and Go.”
Tuesday, February 25, 2014
Dark, yet clear as a kyu player
Hi again internet go baduk weiqi world!
After some break because of the birth of our daughter, i`m back. I don`t know how much i will keep this blog updated, but it feels wrong to play and study again without blogging again, i think it just became a habit.
Here a game with relativ detailed comments in it, hope you will enjoy and if you find any mistakes, or if you have other views, opinions etc. please let me know.
I`m also planing to review some pro games in the future, not to teach somebody, just to share my studies! The focus here is of course totally different than for example at gogameguru, where you get professional reviews ... i`m just a kyu player and if you read my comments you should not see them as absolute but just as thoughts of a kyu player, not a teacher - but actually that goes without saying.
Maybe together we can develop a better understanding of the game, that would be nice!
Ah, and for those who don`t know me at all allready, please excuse me if i will sometimes write strange english, i`m not a native speaker.
And in case you did not see it allready, i started a second twitter account, i use it just 100% as a study journal (= @badukJournal ) ... maybe it inspires you, i hope so, for me it is a good way to track my progress and to develop motivation.
Mhmm, nothing much more to say... maybe just a few go related random things:
- Still waiting (sometimes praying) for the mac version of Smartgo
- When i have time to study i do tsumego 90% of the time, i start to love tsumego, even sometimes when i`m too tired to even solve the easy ones :-)
- I bought a fan with a Go Seigen calligraphy from the hebsacker verlag.
Here is a picture:
John Fairbarn writes at 19x19 that the meaning is this:
"Dark, yet clear as day". This is from the Confucian "Doctrine of the Golden Mean", and it is a metaphorical description of the perfect gentleman: dark on the surface, bright inside: "a gentleman has no adornment outside but is cultivated inside".
and i wonder if that maybe is in this case not (only) about the gentlemens qualities but about the qualities of Go Seigens moves?! ... not many people were able to understand them immediately, but he saw the possible variations "clear as day"
- i sadly recognised that "Go World" has published it`s last issue
- this Lee Sedol - Gu Li Jubango is amazing... i would like to see Lee Sedol win :-D Have nice game ... and day ;-)
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[1800]OT[5x20 byo-yomi] GN[2014-02-24a]PW[ffgudoc]PB[eyecatcher]WR[4k]BR[5k]DT[2014-02-24]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[B+Resign]CH[1] ;B[pc]BL[598.5]C[I was black] ;W[dp]WL[596.8] ;B[pq]BL[597.2] ;W[dd]WL[591.4] ;B[po]BL[593.6] ;W[dj]WL[587.5]C[The sanrensei with white is not very common, isn`t it? ] ;B[fq]BL[588.9]C[As with the chinese opening, same with the sanrensei, i allways tend to attack right away to make it "flat" (=not so easy to build a huge mojo) I overheard this somewhere in a lecture from Guo Juan.] ;W[jj]WL[583.5]TR[fc][fd][dn]C[I did not expect this move at all. I like it if somebody plays freely wherever he or she want's – but i personaly would have not played tengen now, first i would have answered to the attack on the corner or played a shimari at the other corner. I don't know if playing tengen was a bad move, i just wouldn't play it...] ;B[fc]BL[584.5]TR[fc][dd][ge][dg][hi][dm][gn][fq]C[Again my idea was to make the sanrensei flat, at least in terms of preventing shimaris to the side which would have help to build a mojo ] ;W[fd]WL[577.6] ;B[gd]BL[581.9] ;W[fe]WL[574.9] ;B[ec]BL[576.6] ;W[dc]WL[572.5]LB[hc:B][ic:A][jc:C] (;B[ic]BL[572.6]LB[jc:B][ge:A]C[The common, standard joseki moves, instead of this move, are A and B, but i think this, black 15, is ok as well] ;W[dg]WL[569.1]LB[cj:A][fj:D][cn:B][fo:E][ip:C]C[My next move is questionable, maybe ok maybe not... instead of black 17 (next) where else could i have played? ] (;B[cj]BL[568.4]C[It was a fast game, and i did not think much before i played here. The idea came up to play this and i just did it right away without much hesitation. I will ask some better players if this move is bad or ok, i can't judge. In the game - in the end - this move helped building up the situation in which i was able to win, but that does not make it a good move automaticly! ] ;W[ck]WL[565]LB[dk:B][co:A]C[I like this answer. ] (;B[co]BL[560.7]C[This was really a missclick!! :-) I wanted to play the 'normal' corner approach at C6 but i was not asking for undo... and thought "why not" :) ] ;W[cp]WL[556.5]C[I think white answer was good.] ;B[cl]BL[549.6]C[This move was 99% intuitive, not much thinking before i played here.] ;W[bk]WL[552.3]LB[di:A][dk:B]C[I think to play "2" next instead of the actual move "1" would have been much better. ] (;B[di]BL[539.2]LB[dk:B][dl:A]C[As white i would like to play next at D9, not allowing black to get the atari-forcing move at E10] (;W[dl]WL[547.6] ;B[ej]BL[536.3]LB[dk:A][cm:B] (;W[dk]WL[545.7] (;B[ch]BL[533.1]LB[eh:A]C[I think a move like this to strengthen this group is necessary, but maybe better at "A" ?] ;W[cg]WL[537.5] ;B[db]BL[528.3]C[I was regretting this move immediately after white 30 (the obvious answer ;) I think to protect the group at D11 is the thing to do now... and black 29 and even black 31 may have been mistakes... ] ;W[cb]WL[534.6] ;B[ip]BL[503.3] ;W[ei]WL[531.3] ;B[eh]BL[500.6] ;W[fi]WL[529.4] ;B[dh]BL[493.2]LB[gg:B][bh:A][ip:A]C[I think the group is in danger now. I was afraid that black could play "2" next... After all the move at A was wrong for sure, because this group at D11 is now heavy under pressure and i think is to important now for a sacrifice.] (;W[bh]WL[527] ;B[bi]BL[489.4] ;W[bg]WL[525.2] ;B[fh]BL[476.5]C[I was lucky to play here, white allowed me to live / escape :) ] ;W[gi]WL[522.2] ;B[gh]BL[475.4] ;W[hi]WL[520.2] ;B[ed]BL[452.7]TR[db]C[If white ignore, i would trade the big group for the corner... But i think even i white let black push through the corner can`t be killed by black... and i played the "wrong" move at D18 ... so white could let white push through without any worries (?!?) See Variations your self, It is tricky ;-) ] (;W[ee]WL[517.8] ;B[de]BL[450.1]C[I had no real plan here... just played intuitiv. ] ;W[ge]WL[510] ;B[hh]BL[424.5] ;W[gc]WL[506.8] ;B[gb]BL[420.1] ;W[hd]WL[505.2] ;B[eb]BL[416.6] (;W[ce]WL[503.1] ;B[ii]BL[408.4] ;W[ij]WL[500.4] ;B[bb]BL[297.8]LB[ca:B][ig:A]C[After i played here white was taking some time to answer... i think Black 55 is not bad because it destroyed a lot of corner territory but nothing special, white can`t block... ("2") And Black should maybe protect the center group again, so the timing of B18 is questionable ^^] (;W[ig]WL[306.7]TR[ei][fi][gi][hi]C[When white played here, i was thinking "oh this is a strong move" ... ] (;B[hf]BL[235.3]LB[if:B][ih:A]C[Again, because it was a fast game, the following moves were just happening without much thinking... ] (;W[ih]WL[288] ;B[if]BL[226.3] ;W[hg]WL[286] ;B[gf]BL[224.3] ;W[gg]WL[284.6] ;B[ff]BL[223.4]LB[eg:B][fg:A] (;W[fg]WL[283.3] ;B[ef]BL[222.5]C[White has to protect the group at F15 and can`t play E13! ] (;W[eg]WL[281.5]C[The loosing move. I was lucky, without this move the game could have last much much longer and it would have been unclear who will win. ] ;B[df]BL[219.3] (;W[cc]WL[278] ;B[cf]BL[205.8] ;W[bf]WL[235.4] ;B[be]BL[192.7] ;W[cd]WL[232.3] ;B[bd]BL[184.7] ;W[id]WL[220.8]C[White resigned here. ]) (;W[cf]C[White should have played here now... but even then, the marked group is 99% dead, white lost a lot. ])) (;W[df]C[I think this is the ONLY move -now- ] ;B[eg]C[Black is almost 100% escaped... ] (;W[jf]) (;W[je] ;B[jf]) (;W[ke] ;B[je] ;W[jd] ;B[id]))) (;W[eg] ;B[fg] ;W[jf] ;B[ie] ;W[id] ;B[je])) (;W[if] ;B[ih] ;W[jh] ;B[ji] ;W[ki] ;B[kh] ;W[jg] ;B[kj] ;W[li] ;B[hj] ;W[gj] ;B[hk] ;W[jk] ;B[gk] ;W[fj] ;B[fk]) (;W[hg] ;B[gf])) (;B[ih] ;W[jg] ;B[jh] ;W[kh] (;B[hj] ;W[gj] ;B[ki] ;W[ji] ;B[hk] ;W[gk] ;B[kj] ;W[jk] ;B[kk] ;W[hl] ;B[kg] ;W[lh] ;B[hf] ;W[if] ;B[he] ;W[ie] ;B[id] ;W[hg]) (;B[kg] ;W[ki] ;B[hf] ;W[if] ;B[ie] (;W[he]) (;W[kf] ;B[hg] ;W[jf] ;B[he])))) (;W[ca] ;B[cc] ;W[cd] ;B[bc])) (;W[ig] ;B[ih] (;W[jh]) (;W[jg]))) (;W[hg] (;B[de] ;W[ce] (;B[cd] ;W[cc] ;B[cf] ;W[bd]C[Black Mistake ... ]) (;B[ee] ;W[cf])) (;B[cd] ;W[cc] ;B[de] ;W[ce] ;B[ee] ;W[cf]) (;B[ce] ;W[de]) (;B[ee] ;W[eg] ;B[fg] ;W[ff] ;B[ef] ;W[gf] (;B[cf] ;W[df] ;B[de] ;W[ce] ;B[bf] ;W[be]) (;B[ce] (;W[de] ;B[df] ;W[cf] ;B[cd] ;W[be] ;B[cc] ;W[af] ;B[ah]) (;W[be] ;B[bd] ;W[cd] ;B[bf] ;W[cf] ;B[ae] ;W[de] ;B[df] ;W[be]))))) (;W[gg]LB[bg:B][fh:A]C[i think white would be able to kill black now!? (Just some simple trial and error variations follow here)] (;B[fh] ;W[gh] ;B[gi] ;W[fj]LB[df:B][gj:A] (;B[gj] ;W[fk] ;B[bg] ;W[bf] ;B[bi] ;W[ag] ;B[ah] ;W[bh] ;B[gf] ;W[ff] ;B[fg]) (;B[df] ;W[cf] ;B[ed] ;W[eg] ;B[de] ;W[ee] ;B[ce] ;W[cc] ;B[bg] ;W[bf] ;B[cd] ;W[eb])) (;B[bg] ;W[bf]LB[ah:B][bi:A] (;B[bi] ;W[ag] ;B[gh] ;W[fh] ;B[fg] ;W[eg] ;B[ff] ;W[gf]) (;B[ah] ;W[bi]LB[cf:A][fg:B] (;B[cf] ;W[bh] ;B[be] ;W[ag] ;B[cd] ;W[cc]) (;B[fg] ;W[ff] ;B[fh] ;W[gh] ;B[cf] ;W[bh] ;B[eg] ;W[df] ;B[ef] ;W[de] ;B[ee] ;W[ed] ;B[ci] ;W[bj]))))) (;B[eh] ;W[ci] ;B[ch] ;W[bi] ;B[dh] ;W[gi]C[Now the black group is hard to attack directlly])) (;W[cm] ;B[dk]C[No, ponuki for black is not what white want`s ])) (;W[dk]LB[dh:A][fi:B] (;B[dh]LB[cg:B][fi:C][fk:A] (;W[fk] ;B[cg]) (;W[cg]LB[fi:A][em:B] (;B[fi] ;W[dm]) (;B[em] ;W[fi] ;B[fh])) (;W[fi] ;B[fh] ;W[eh] ;B[ei] ;W[eg] ;B[fj] ;W[gi] ;B[ej] ;W[gg] ;B[em] ;W[ci] ;B[ch] ;W[bi]LB[bh:B][bl:A] (;B[bl] ;W[bh] ;B[bg] ;W[cg]) (;B[bh] ;W[bl]LB[bm:A][cm:B] (;B[bm] ;W[cm] ;B[dl] ;W[bn] ;B[cn] ;W[am] ;B[aj] ;W[bj] ;B[ai] ;W[ak]) (;B[cm] ;W[bm] ;B[bn] ;W[aj] ;B[am] ;W[al])))) (;B[fi] ;W[ei] ;B[eh] ;W[ej] ;B[dh] ;W[fh] ;B[fg] ;W[gh] ;B[eg] ;W[gg] ;B[ff] ;W[gf] ;B[df] ;W[cg] ;B[cf] ;W[ch] ;B[ci] ;W[bh] ;B[bi] ;W[ai] ;B[bg] ;W[ah] ;B[aj] ;W[ag] ;B[af]))) (;B[dk] ;W[dl] ;B[ek]LB[ci:B][cm:A] (;W[cm] ;B[di]LB[ci:B][ej:C][bl:A][cn:D] (;W[bl]C[White has not to play here... ]) (;W[ci] ;B[bj] ;W[bi] ;B[aj] ;W[ai] ;B[ej] ;W[bl] ;B[ch]C[White mistake]) (;W[ej]C[yes the ladder is good for black :) ] ;B[fj] ;W[ei] ;B[eh] ;W[fi] ;B[gi] ;W[fh] ;B[fg] ;W[gh] ;B[hh] ;W[gg] ;B[gf] ;W[hg] ;B[ig] ;W[hf] ;B[he] ;W[if] ;B[jf] ;W[ie] ;B[id] ;W[je] ;B[ke] ;W[jd] ;B[jc] ;W[kd] ;B[ld] ;W[kc] ;B[kb] ;W[lc] ;B[mc] ;W[mb] ;B[lb]) (;W[cn] ;B[bo] ;W[bp] ;B[do] ;W[eo] ;B[ep] ;W[dn] ;B[en] ;W[fo] ;B[bm] ;W[bl])) (;W[ci] ;B[dm]))) (;B[dk]C[i think i should have crosscuted] ;W[dl] ;B[ek] ;W[di] ;B[cl] ;W[bk] ;B[bl] ;W[bj] ;B[dm])) (;B[cn]C[This looks powerfull - i think i prefer this move over the one which i actually played. Yes, this would have been my favorite -now- :-) ] ;W[eo] ;B[ck] ;W[cj] ;B[em] ;W[gp] ;B[fp] ;W[fo] ;B[go] ;W[gn] ;B[ho]LB[fm:A][hq:B] (;W[fm] ;B[el] ;W[hq] ;B[hp] ;W[gq] ;B[iq] ;W[fr]LB[gr:B][hr:A] (;B[hr] ;W[gr]LB[er:A][ir:B] (;B[er] ;W[ir] ;B[jr] ;W[hs]) (;B[ir] ;W[eq])) (;B[gr] ;W[hr] ;B[ir] ;W[gs]LB[eq:B][er:A] (;B[er] ;W[eq]) (;B[eq] ;W[er] ;B[is] ;W[hs] ;B[es] ;W[dr]))) (;W[hq] ;B[fn]LB[en:B][gq:A] (;W[gq]) (;W[en] ;B[fm] ;W[dm] ;B[dn] ;W[eq] ;B[ep] ;W[do] ;B[dq] ;W[er] ;B[cp]))) (;B[ip]C[The peacefull move, looks ok too. ] ;W[dm] ;B[pj] ;W[pe] ;B[nd]LB[ph:B][qh:A] (;W[qh] ;B[qi] ;W[pm] ;B[ph] ;W[qg] ;B[qd]) (;W[ph] ;B[nj]LB[mg:B][lp:A] (;W[lp] ;B[og]) (;W[mg] ;B[oh] ;W[og] ;B[pg] ;W[nh] ;B[oi] ;W[pf] ;B[qg] ;W[ne] ;B[md] ;W[lp]))) (;B[fj]C[Because of the tengen stone this is maybe a good choice too!? ]) (;B[fo]LB[cn:A][jp:B]C[Makes A und B mia no? ] ;W[jp] ;B[cn]LB[dn:B][mq:A] (;W[mq]) (;W[dn] ;B[dm] ;W[en] ;B[co] ;W[cp] ;B[ck] ;W[fn]LB[ci:B][go:A] (;B[go] ;W[cj]) (;B[ci] ;W[go] ;B[gp] ;W[ep] ;B[fp] ;W[hp] ;B[ho] ;W[gn] ;B[ip] ;W[hq] ;B[iq] ;W[io] ;B[hn] ;W[in] ;B[hm] ;W[ir] ;B[dr])))) (;B[hc]) (;B[jc]))
“Competition and faith are my life-long vocations. Like water and fire, I depend on both. When I couldn’t outrank the others, it was time for me to leave. There are two things in my life, truth and Go.” Go Seigen
After some break because of the birth of our daughter, i`m back. I don`t know how much i will keep this blog updated, but it feels wrong to play and study again without blogging again, i think it just became a habit.
Here a game with relativ detailed comments in it, hope you will enjoy and if you find any mistakes, or if you have other views, opinions etc. please let me know.
I`m also planing to review some pro games in the future, not to teach somebody, just to share my studies! The focus here is of course totally different than for example at gogameguru, where you get professional reviews ... i`m just a kyu player and if you read my comments you should not see them as absolute but just as thoughts of a kyu player, not a teacher - but actually that goes without saying.
Maybe together we can develop a better understanding of the game, that would be nice!
Ah, and for those who don`t know me at all allready, please excuse me if i will sometimes write strange english, i`m not a native speaker.
And in case you did not see it allready, i started a second twitter account, i use it just 100% as a study journal (= @badukJournal ) ... maybe it inspires you, i hope so, for me it is a good way to track my progress and to develop motivation.
Mhmm, nothing much more to say... maybe just a few go related random things:
- Still waiting (sometimes praying) for the mac version of Smartgo
- When i have time to study i do tsumego 90% of the time, i start to love tsumego, even sometimes when i`m too tired to even solve the easy ones :-)
- I bought a fan with a Go Seigen calligraphy from the hebsacker verlag.
Here is a picture:
John Fairbarn writes at 19x19 that the meaning is this:
"Dark, yet clear as day". This is from the Confucian "Doctrine of the Golden Mean", and it is a metaphorical description of the perfect gentleman: dark on the surface, bright inside: "a gentleman has no adornment outside but is cultivated inside".
and i wonder if that maybe is in this case not (only) about the gentlemens qualities but about the qualities of Go Seigens moves?! ... not many people were able to understand them immediately, but he saw the possible variations "clear as day"
- i sadly recognised that "Go World" has published it`s last issue
- this Lee Sedol - Gu Li Jubango is amazing... i would like to see Lee Sedol win :-D Have nice game ... and day ;-)
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[1800]OT[5x20 byo-yomi] GN[2014-02-24a]PW[ffgudoc]PB[eyecatcher]WR[4k]BR[5k]DT[2014-02-24]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[B+Resign]CH[1] ;B[pc]BL[598.5]C[I was black] ;W[dp]WL[596.8] ;B[pq]BL[597.2] ;W[dd]WL[591.4] ;B[po]BL[593.6] ;W[dj]WL[587.5]C[The sanrensei with white is not very common, isn`t it? ] ;B[fq]BL[588.9]C[As with the chinese opening, same with the sanrensei, i allways tend to attack right away to make it "flat" (=not so easy to build a huge mojo) I overheard this somewhere in a lecture from Guo Juan.] ;W[jj]WL[583.5]TR[fc][fd][dn]C[I did not expect this move at all. I like it if somebody plays freely wherever he or she want's – but i personaly would have not played tengen now, first i would have answered to the attack on the corner or played a shimari at the other corner. I don't know if playing tengen was a bad move, i just wouldn't play it...] ;B[fc]BL[584.5]TR[fc][dd][ge][dg][hi][dm][gn][fq]C[Again my idea was to make the sanrensei flat, at least in terms of preventing shimaris to the side which would have help to build a mojo ] ;W[fd]WL[577.6] ;B[gd]BL[581.9] ;W[fe]WL[574.9] ;B[ec]BL[576.6] ;W[dc]WL[572.5]LB[hc:B][ic:A][jc:C] (;B[ic]BL[572.6]LB[jc:B][ge:A]C[The common, standard joseki moves, instead of this move, are A and B, but i think this, black 15, is ok as well] ;W[dg]WL[569.1]LB[cj:A][fj:D][cn:B][fo:E][ip:C]C[My next move is questionable, maybe ok maybe not... instead of black 17 (next) where else could i have played? ] (;B[cj]BL[568.4]C[It was a fast game, and i did not think much before i played here. The idea came up to play this and i just did it right away without much hesitation. I will ask some better players if this move is bad or ok, i can't judge. In the game - in the end - this move helped building up the situation in which i was able to win, but that does not make it a good move automaticly! ] ;W[ck]WL[565]LB[dk:B][co:A]C[I like this answer. ] (;B[co]BL[560.7]C[This was really a missclick!! :-) I wanted to play the 'normal' corner approach at C6 but i was not asking for undo... and thought "why not" :) ] ;W[cp]WL[556.5]C[I think white answer was good.] ;B[cl]BL[549.6]C[This move was 99% intuitive, not much thinking before i played here.] ;W[bk]WL[552.3]LB[di:A][dk:B]C[I think to play "2" next instead of the actual move "1" would have been much better. ] (;B[di]BL[539.2]LB[dk:B][dl:A]C[As white i would like to play next at D9, not allowing black to get the atari-forcing move at E10] (;W[dl]WL[547.6] ;B[ej]BL[536.3]LB[dk:A][cm:B] (;W[dk]WL[545.7] (;B[ch]BL[533.1]LB[eh:A]C[I think a move like this to strengthen this group is necessary, but maybe better at "A" ?] ;W[cg]WL[537.5] ;B[db]BL[528.3]C[I was regretting this move immediately after white 30 (the obvious answer ;) I think to protect the group at D11 is the thing to do now... and black 29 and even black 31 may have been mistakes... ] ;W[cb]WL[534.6] ;B[ip]BL[503.3] ;W[ei]WL[531.3] ;B[eh]BL[500.6] ;W[fi]WL[529.4] ;B[dh]BL[493.2]LB[gg:B][bh:A][ip:A]C[I think the group is in danger now. I was afraid that black could play "2" next... After all the move at A was wrong for sure, because this group at D11 is now heavy under pressure and i think is to important now for a sacrifice.] (;W[bh]WL[527] ;B[bi]BL[489.4] ;W[bg]WL[525.2] ;B[fh]BL[476.5]C[I was lucky to play here, white allowed me to live / escape :) ] ;W[gi]WL[522.2] ;B[gh]BL[475.4] ;W[hi]WL[520.2] ;B[ed]BL[452.7]TR[db]C[If white ignore, i would trade the big group for the corner... But i think even i white let black push through the corner can`t be killed by black... and i played the "wrong" move at D18 ... so white could let white push through without any worries (?!?) See Variations your self, It is tricky ;-) ] (;W[ee]WL[517.8] ;B[de]BL[450.1]C[I had no real plan here... just played intuitiv. ] ;W[ge]WL[510] ;B[hh]BL[424.5] ;W[gc]WL[506.8] ;B[gb]BL[420.1] ;W[hd]WL[505.2] ;B[eb]BL[416.6] (;W[ce]WL[503.1] ;B[ii]BL[408.4] ;W[ij]WL[500.4] ;B[bb]BL[297.8]LB[ca:B][ig:A]C[After i played here white was taking some time to answer... i think Black 55 is not bad because it destroyed a lot of corner territory but nothing special, white can`t block... ("2") And Black should maybe protect the center group again, so the timing of B18 is questionable ^^] (;W[ig]WL[306.7]TR[ei][fi][gi][hi]C[When white played here, i was thinking "oh this is a strong move" ... ] (;B[hf]BL[235.3]LB[if:B][ih:A]C[Again, because it was a fast game, the following moves were just happening without much thinking... ] (;W[ih]WL[288] ;B[if]BL[226.3] ;W[hg]WL[286] ;B[gf]BL[224.3] ;W[gg]WL[284.6] ;B[ff]BL[223.4]LB[eg:B][fg:A] (;W[fg]WL[283.3] ;B[ef]BL[222.5]C[White has to protect the group at F15 and can`t play E13! ] (;W[eg]WL[281.5]C[The loosing move. I was lucky, without this move the game could have last much much longer and it would have been unclear who will win. ] ;B[df]BL[219.3] (;W[cc]WL[278] ;B[cf]BL[205.8] ;W[bf]WL[235.4] ;B[be]BL[192.7] ;W[cd]WL[232.3] ;B[bd]BL[184.7] ;W[id]WL[220.8]C[White resigned here. ]) (;W[cf]C[White should have played here now... but even then, the marked group is 99% dead, white lost a lot. ])) (;W[df]C[I think this is the ONLY move -now- ] ;B[eg]C[Black is almost 100% escaped... ] (;W[jf]) (;W[je] ;B[jf]) (;W[ke] ;B[je] ;W[jd] ;B[id]))) (;W[eg] ;B[fg] ;W[jf] ;B[ie] ;W[id] ;B[je])) (;W[if] ;B[ih] ;W[jh] ;B[ji] ;W[ki] ;B[kh] ;W[jg] ;B[kj] ;W[li] ;B[hj] ;W[gj] ;B[hk] ;W[jk] ;B[gk] ;W[fj] ;B[fk]) (;W[hg] ;B[gf])) (;B[ih] ;W[jg] ;B[jh] ;W[kh] (;B[hj] ;W[gj] ;B[ki] ;W[ji] ;B[hk] ;W[gk] ;B[kj] ;W[jk] ;B[kk] ;W[hl] ;B[kg] ;W[lh] ;B[hf] ;W[if] ;B[he] ;W[ie] ;B[id] ;W[hg]) (;B[kg] ;W[ki] ;B[hf] ;W[if] ;B[ie] (;W[he]) (;W[kf] ;B[hg] ;W[jf] ;B[he])))) (;W[ca] ;B[cc] ;W[cd] ;B[bc])) (;W[ig] ;B[ih] (;W[jh]) (;W[jg]))) (;W[hg] (;B[de] ;W[ce] (;B[cd] ;W[cc] ;B[cf] ;W[bd]C[Black Mistake ... ]) (;B[ee] ;W[cf])) (;B[cd] ;W[cc] ;B[de] ;W[ce] ;B[ee] ;W[cf]) (;B[ce] ;W[de]) (;B[ee] ;W[eg] ;B[fg] ;W[ff] ;B[ef] ;W[gf] (;B[cf] ;W[df] ;B[de] ;W[ce] ;B[bf] ;W[be]) (;B[ce] (;W[de] ;B[df] ;W[cf] ;B[cd] ;W[be] ;B[cc] ;W[af] ;B[ah]) (;W[be] ;B[bd] ;W[cd] ;B[bf] ;W[cf] ;B[ae] ;W[de] ;B[df] ;W[be]))))) (;W[gg]LB[bg:B][fh:A]C[i think white would be able to kill black now!? (Just some simple trial and error variations follow here)] (;B[fh] ;W[gh] ;B[gi] ;W[fj]LB[df:B][gj:A] (;B[gj] ;W[fk] ;B[bg] ;W[bf] ;B[bi] ;W[ag] ;B[ah] ;W[bh] ;B[gf] ;W[ff] ;B[fg]) (;B[df] ;W[cf] ;B[ed] ;W[eg] ;B[de] ;W[ee] ;B[ce] ;W[cc] ;B[bg] ;W[bf] ;B[cd] ;W[eb])) (;B[bg] ;W[bf]LB[ah:B][bi:A] (;B[bi] ;W[ag] ;B[gh] ;W[fh] ;B[fg] ;W[eg] ;B[ff] ;W[gf]) (;B[ah] ;W[bi]LB[cf:A][fg:B] (;B[cf] ;W[bh] ;B[be] ;W[ag] ;B[cd] ;W[cc]) (;B[fg] ;W[ff] ;B[fh] ;W[gh] ;B[cf] ;W[bh] ;B[eg] ;W[df] ;B[ef] ;W[de] ;B[ee] ;W[ed] ;B[ci] ;W[bj]))))) (;B[eh] ;W[ci] ;B[ch] ;W[bi] ;B[dh] ;W[gi]C[Now the black group is hard to attack directlly])) (;W[cm] ;B[dk]C[No, ponuki for black is not what white want`s ])) (;W[dk]LB[dh:A][fi:B] (;B[dh]LB[cg:B][fi:C][fk:A] (;W[fk] ;B[cg]) (;W[cg]LB[fi:A][em:B] (;B[fi] ;W[dm]) (;B[em] ;W[fi] ;B[fh])) (;W[fi] ;B[fh] ;W[eh] ;B[ei] ;W[eg] ;B[fj] ;W[gi] ;B[ej] ;W[gg] ;B[em] ;W[ci] ;B[ch] ;W[bi]LB[bh:B][bl:A] (;B[bl] ;W[bh] ;B[bg] ;W[cg]) (;B[bh] ;W[bl]LB[bm:A][cm:B] (;B[bm] ;W[cm] ;B[dl] ;W[bn] ;B[cn] ;W[am] ;B[aj] ;W[bj] ;B[ai] ;W[ak]) (;B[cm] ;W[bm] ;B[bn] ;W[aj] ;B[am] ;W[al])))) (;B[fi] ;W[ei] ;B[eh] ;W[ej] ;B[dh] ;W[fh] ;B[fg] ;W[gh] ;B[eg] ;W[gg] ;B[ff] ;W[gf] ;B[df] ;W[cg] ;B[cf] ;W[ch] ;B[ci] ;W[bh] ;B[bi] ;W[ai] ;B[bg] ;W[ah] ;B[aj] ;W[ag] ;B[af]))) (;B[dk] ;W[dl] ;B[ek]LB[ci:B][cm:A] (;W[cm] ;B[di]LB[ci:B][ej:C][bl:A][cn:D] (;W[bl]C[White has not to play here... ]) (;W[ci] ;B[bj] ;W[bi] ;B[aj] ;W[ai] ;B[ej] ;W[bl] ;B[ch]C[White mistake]) (;W[ej]C[yes the ladder is good for black :) ] ;B[fj] ;W[ei] ;B[eh] ;W[fi] ;B[gi] ;W[fh] ;B[fg] ;W[gh] ;B[hh] ;W[gg] ;B[gf] ;W[hg] ;B[ig] ;W[hf] ;B[he] ;W[if] ;B[jf] ;W[ie] ;B[id] ;W[je] ;B[ke] ;W[jd] ;B[jc] ;W[kd] ;B[ld] ;W[kc] ;B[kb] ;W[lc] ;B[mc] ;W[mb] ;B[lb]) (;W[cn] ;B[bo] ;W[bp] ;B[do] ;W[eo] ;B[ep] ;W[dn] ;B[en] ;W[fo] ;B[bm] ;W[bl])) (;W[ci] ;B[dm]))) (;B[dk]C[i think i should have crosscuted] ;W[dl] ;B[ek] ;W[di] ;B[cl] ;W[bk] ;B[bl] ;W[bj] ;B[dm])) (;B[cn]C[This looks powerfull - i think i prefer this move over the one which i actually played. Yes, this would have been my favorite -now- :-) ] ;W[eo] ;B[ck] ;W[cj] ;B[em] ;W[gp] ;B[fp] ;W[fo] ;B[go] ;W[gn] ;B[ho]LB[fm:A][hq:B] (;W[fm] ;B[el] ;W[hq] ;B[hp] ;W[gq] ;B[iq] ;W[fr]LB[gr:B][hr:A] (;B[hr] ;W[gr]LB[er:A][ir:B] (;B[er] ;W[ir] ;B[jr] ;W[hs]) (;B[ir] ;W[eq])) (;B[gr] ;W[hr] ;B[ir] ;W[gs]LB[eq:B][er:A] (;B[er] ;W[eq]) (;B[eq] ;W[er] ;B[is] ;W[hs] ;B[es] ;W[dr]))) (;W[hq] ;B[fn]LB[en:B][gq:A] (;W[gq]) (;W[en] ;B[fm] ;W[dm] ;B[dn] ;W[eq] ;B[ep] ;W[do] ;B[dq] ;W[er] ;B[cp]))) (;B[ip]C[The peacefull move, looks ok too. ] ;W[dm] ;B[pj] ;W[pe] ;B[nd]LB[ph:B][qh:A] (;W[qh] ;B[qi] ;W[pm] ;B[ph] ;W[qg] ;B[qd]) (;W[ph] ;B[nj]LB[mg:B][lp:A] (;W[lp] ;B[og]) (;W[mg] ;B[oh] ;W[og] ;B[pg] ;W[nh] ;B[oi] ;W[pf] ;B[qg] ;W[ne] ;B[md] ;W[lp]))) (;B[fj]C[Because of the tengen stone this is maybe a good choice too!? ]) (;B[fo]LB[cn:A][jp:B]C[Makes A und B mia no? ] ;W[jp] ;B[cn]LB[dn:B][mq:A] (;W[mq]) (;W[dn] ;B[dm] ;W[en] ;B[co] ;W[cp] ;B[ck] ;W[fn]LB[ci:B][go:A] (;B[go] ;W[cj]) (;B[ci] ;W[go] ;B[gp] ;W[ep] ;B[fp] ;W[hp] ;B[ho] ;W[gn] ;B[ip] ;W[hq] ;B[iq] ;W[io] ;B[hn] ;W[in] ;B[hm] ;W[ir] ;B[dr])))) (;B[hc]) (;B[jc]))
Monday, May 27, 2013
The "thinking game" and the "feeling game"
So far it works fine with having 2 accounts, one for short games in between and one for long serious games.
But often i found my self playing fast (and sometimes stupid) moves even when i still have long thinking time.
This has to do something with my personality and it makes a good example on how you can learn about your self - and maybe work on some bad habbits- through playing Go!
Sometimes it feels to me like that there are 2 different games ... the one where you can follow your intuition, where you "feel" your next move and ... the one where you really think through variations and possible answers of your opponent. But there aren`t 2 games!
There are, even in games with long thinking time, a lot of situations where you can`t think it through, go allways has both aspects... the right brain thing and the left brain thing! :-)
This reminds me of a book i once read "Zone Press Park" from O Meien ... he talks about finite and non-finite Go.
Here a quote from Senseis Library
O Meien discusses the concepts he calls "infinite" vs. "finite" go. A position in go is "finite" if it's possible for the player to find the best move through reading. It's when the game is constrained and the possibilities are limited. It is clear he doesn't like this, and his technique of the "zone press" (a term borrowed from Japanese soccer) is designed to avoid it, and push the game into a state he calls "infinite," meaning a position where it is not clear to either player what the best move is, but there is nevertheless a pressure for his opponent to do something to reduce the dominance of his "number one zone", which is the area with the most potential on the board.
Howsoever... i think i make good progress and the most important thing:
i enjoy playing again very much. And few weeks ago i realised something very very simple and very very important:
I have to be good at solving Life&Death problems in order to become a stronger player one day!
It is that simple and you can read about this in many books or on the internet ... and go teachers will point out as well ... but when i remeber a few months ago i really did not like to solve L&D ... i hate it because i was not good at it. But as soon as i fully accepted that in order to become a dan player one day ... i have to incrase my reading ability somehow ... i started to see solving L&D as a challenge to overcome myself and to learn how to fully concentrate.
There are only 3 possibilities:
1. Learn how to solve hard L&D and (maybe!)
become a dan player one day.
2. Don`t learn and stay a kgs 6 kyu.
3. Don`t learn and stop playing.
By the way i will not continue with posting every long game here... but some of them.
I`m sorry if my english is not very good :-)
Have a nice game!
“Competition and faith are my life-long vocations. Like water and fire, I depend on both. When I couldn’t outrank the others, it was time for me to leave. There are two things in my life, truth and Go.” Go Seigen
This has to do something with my personality and it makes a good example on how you can learn about your self - and maybe work on some bad habbits- through playing Go!
Sometimes it feels to me like that there are 2 different games ... the one where you can follow your intuition, where you "feel" your next move and ... the one where you really think through variations and possible answers of your opponent. But there aren`t 2 games!
There are, even in games with long thinking time, a lot of situations where you can`t think it through, go allways has both aspects... the right brain thing and the left brain thing! :-)
This reminds me of a book i once read "Zone Press Park" from O Meien ... he talks about finite and non-finite Go.
Here a quote from Senseis Library
O Meien discusses the concepts he calls "infinite" vs. "finite" go. A position in go is "finite" if it's possible for the player to find the best move through reading. It's when the game is constrained and the possibilities are limited. It is clear he doesn't like this, and his technique of the "zone press" (a term borrowed from Japanese soccer) is designed to avoid it, and push the game into a state he calls "infinite," meaning a position where it is not clear to either player what the best move is, but there is nevertheless a pressure for his opponent to do something to reduce the dominance of his "number one zone", which is the area with the most potential on the board.
Howsoever... i think i make good progress and the most important thing:
i enjoy playing again very much. And few weeks ago i realised something very very simple and very very important:
I have to be good at solving Life&Death problems in order to become a stronger player one day!
It is that simple and you can read about this in many books or on the internet ... and go teachers will point out as well ... but when i remeber a few months ago i really did not like to solve L&D ... i hate it because i was not good at it. But as soon as i fully accepted that in order to become a dan player one day ... i have to incrase my reading ability somehow ... i started to see solving L&D as a challenge to overcome myself and to learn how to fully concentrate.
There are only 3 possibilities:
1. Learn how to solve hard L&D and (maybe!)
become a dan player one day.
2. Don`t learn and stay a kgs 6 kyu.
3. Don`t learn and stop playing.
By the way i will not continue with posting every long game here... but some of them.
I`m sorry if my english is not very good :-)
Have a nice game!
“Competition and faith are my life-long vocations. Like water and fire, I depend on both. When I couldn’t outrank the others, it was time for me to leave. There are two things in my life, truth and Go.” Go Seigen
Thursday, May 23, 2013
To grasp the opportunity...
At arround move 137 white did not grasp a opportunity to attack black...
i just found out about this move while writing this review today.
This time the review is with a lot of comments and variations.
i just found out about this move while writing this review today.
This time the review is with a lot of comments and variations.
(;GM[1]FF[4]SZ[19]AP[SmartGo:2.8.3.0]CA[UTF-8]
GN[salome1-eyecatcher]
PW[salome1]WR[5k]
PB[eyecatcher]BR[6k]
DT[2013-05-21]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[0.5]
RE[B+4.50]
RU[Japanese]
TM[1500.0]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]HO[1];B[pc]BL[1484.8];W[cq]WL[1497.5];B[pq]BL[1467.9]
C[My favorite 2 moves as black at the moment. ];W[dd]WL[1495.1]
C[Next move at R5 ist played most often. ]
(;B[cf]BL[1457.7];W[fc]WL[1491.8];B[bd]BL[1451.1];W[cc]WL[1488.4];B[di]BL[1446.1]
C[I know this is unusual, normaly this move is at C11];W[pe]WL[1476.4];B[qe]
BL[1393.1];W[qf]WL[1474.4];B[qd]BL[1390.4];W[pf]WL[1472.3];B[nc]BL[1380.0]
;W[pj]WL[1465.0]
C[The standard joseki. ];B[qo]BL[1371.2]
C[I played here beacuse i did not like white playing a perfect "attacking extension" from the Q10 Stone. ]
;W[ck]WL[1461.0]
C[Instead white attacks on the other side ^^ ];B[cm]BL[1357.1]
C[A risky counter / pincer. ];W[ek]WL[1455.2]
C[This jump could be expected. ];B[eq]BL[1330.6]
C[I was quite happy with this move, i was willing to sacrifice my C7 stone in order to let this stone work with the R5 shimari. Do you think this was a good plan? How could white answer better than the actual game? ]
;W[dp]WL[1452.0]
C[Too slow? Or solid and good? ];B[hp]BL[1317.3];W[en]WL[1448.5]
C[white goes for killing the stone. ];B[dl]BL[1310.6]
C[Peep];W[dk]WL[1446.2];B[ql]BL[1281.8]
C[What about next move for white a invasion at the bottom? For example K3 ? ]
(;W[qk]WL[1443.3];B[mp]BL[1278.0]
C[I would have invaded now arround L4 ]
(;W[bi]WL[1438.2];B[bh]BL[1268.4];W[ci]WL[1435.9];B[ch]BL[1265.0];W[dh]WL[1432.0]
;B[dg]BL[1263.2];W[eh]WL[1430.5];B[bc]BL[1250.8];W[bb]WL[1428.1];B[cd]BL[1245.1]
;W[dc]WL[1423.7]
C[White Gote now ... or was there a better attack other then white42 at E14 ? ]
;B[kd]BL[1179.8];W[ef]WL[1417.8]
C[This was bad. ];B[eg]BL[1174.5]
(;W[ff]WL[1407.4];B[fh]BL[1169.5];W[ei]WL[1405.0];B[fi]BL[1168.1];W[dj]WL[1401.4]
;B[fg]BL[1166.6]
C[White only got trouble with "white42" ];W[jp]WL[1394.3]
C[Now the invasion];B[fo]BL[1155.6]
C[I tried to use the 2 stones arround C7 ... maybe white did make some mistakes with her answers but in the end my plan was working out well and i was building up some strength (wall) which was quite usefull ... ]
;W[fn]WL[1387.1];B[gn]BL[1148.9];W[lq]WL[1381.2];B[do]BL[1072.6];W[eo]WL[1378.0]
;B[ep]BL[1070.0];W[co]WL[1367.7];B[dn]BL[1068.1];W[em]WL[1362.1];B[el]BL[1060.9]
;W[fl]WL[1357.8];B[dq]BL[1043.6];W[cp]WL[1354.6];B[cr]BL[1034.9];W[br]WL[1352.6]
;B[ds]BL[1028.0];W[bn]WL[1336.5];B[bm]BL[998.6];W[bs]WL[1330.3];B[cn]BL[982.6]
;W[bo]WL[1326.6];B[ap]BL[957.3];W[aq]WL[1317.1];B[gm]BL[921.7];W[fm]WL[1313.0]
;B[gl]BL[916.6];W[gk]WL[1307.6];B[fj]BL[912.3];W[fk]WL[1303.3];B[mq]BL[893.5]
;W[jn]WL[1297.7]
C[After the sequence on the left which was using the 2 trapped black stones, black can (maybe) handle white82 better now. ]
;B[lp]BL[860.9];W[kq]WL[1293.6];B[kp]BL[855.2];W[gq]WL[1289.7]
C[But blacks group is not allive yet! Can BLck block at H3 ? ]
(;B[gp]BL[852.6];W[hq]WL[1287.9];B[jq]BL[847.2]
C[If white plays at K2 now, black can`t save the stones but but can cut off white. ]
(;W[iq]WL[1285.2];B[jr]BL[845.2];W[ip]WL[1281.9]
C[Black is capturing 2 stones and quite happy];B[ko]BL[829.2];W[jo]WL[1272.7]
;B[il]BL[811.5];W[ir]WL[1269.5];B[lr]BL[809.1];W[jl]WL[1261.0];B[im]BL[803.6]
;W[jm]WL[1258.8];B[jk]BL[800.3];W[ll]WL[1254.7];B[mm]BL[797.8];W[ml]WL[1249.7]
;B[qi]BL[787.4];W[pi]WL[1242.3];B[rk]BL[785.1];W[qh]WL[1238.4];B[ri]BL[781.9]
;W[pl]WL[1233.8];B[qj]BL[772.4];W[pk]WL[1230.8];B[qm]BL[767.3];W[hj]WL[1217.1]
;B[hk]BL[761.9];W[ij]WL[1208.9];B[ik]BL[758.5]
C[Black is leading now, making live with the E3 and the C14 group should not be that difficult. Black will have more territory. But my endgame was quite weak and even if i won the game, i could not pay the komi in case it would have been a even game! ]
;W[ki]WL[1203.8];B[kk]BL[756.4];W[lm]WL[1200.1];B[lj]BL[725.9];W[ho]WL[1187.1]
;B[hn]BL[707.2];W[ic]WL[1169.7]
C[White get`s this move and now it is again very close / even game. ];B[jc]
BL[698.3];W[ib]WL[1166.1];B[jb]BL[691.2];W[nm]WL[1163.7];B[gj]BL[679.5];W[ig]
WL[1148.4];B[id]BL[675.4];W[li]WL[1130.9];B[jj]BL[660.3];W[ji]WL[1125.2]
C[If black plays arround N14 now ... white will attack (kill) the E3 group ... // See the variation ]
(;B[fq]BL[575.9];W[gr]WL[1113.4]
C[If black Tenuki now i think white CAN`T Kill ... if that is true i made quite useless gote move here next ... (variation) ]
(;B[fr]BL[573.3]
C[No, black has to play here, white could kill if black would have played tenuki. Or am i wrong? Wait a second ... i think white can STILL KILL black! What about white playing F1 now? It leads to a KO to connect to the right. That is very interesting in the game i did not see it. ]
(;W[rh]WL[1099.5];B[hb]BL[557.3];W[hc]WL[1091.9];B[gb]BL[545.0];W[gc]WL[1081.8]
;B[ia]BL[543.1];W[fb]WL[1080.4];B[ab]BL[537.5];W[ba]WL[1076.0];B[me]BL[483.1]
;W[mg]WL[1066.6];B[mj]BL[470.8];W[ni]WL[1050.1];B[mi]BL[464.3];W[mh]WL[1047.6]
;B[rf]BL[455.1];W[rg]WL[1044.5];B[nf]BL[431.7];W[ng]WL[1039.0];B[on]BL[424.0]
;W[nn]WL[1035.6];B[no]BL[422.2]
C[BLack ends in gote here... ]
(;W[cs]WL[1023.9];B[dr]BL[403.7];W[re]WL[1010.8]
C[White can play here, it is big. ];B[rd]BL[401.2];W[si]WL[1007.6];B[rj]
BL[398.2];W[sf]WL[1005.6];B[mn]BL[388.6];W[ln]WL[1001.1];B[mo]BL[385.8];W[om]
WL[999.2];B[pm]BL[380.5];W[nk]WL[991.8];B[hi]BL[334.9];W[ii]WL[987.5];B[gf]
BL[333.0];W[ge]WL[984.1];B[hh]BL[323.6];W[hf]WL[980.2];B[gg]BL[315.6];W[sd]
WL[974.3];B[rc]BL[310.9];W[sc]WL[972.3];B[sb]BL[309.6];W[se]WL[970.9];B[rb]
BL[307.9];W[ga]WL[954.1];B[ja]BL[302.3];W[ha]WL[952.3];B[he]BL[295.4];W[fe]
WL[943.9];B[if]BL[291.7];W[jf]WL[939.2];B[hg]BL[289.6];W[je]WL[936.8];B[jd]
BL[274.3];W[jg]WL[931.4];B[pd]BL[251.4];W[oe]WL[925.2];B[od]BL[247.6];W[ne]
WL[923.7];B[md]BL[241.3];W[ah]WL[919.5];B[ag]BL[223.3];W[ai]WL[918.0];B[bf]
BL[221.3];W[sj]WL[914.7];B[rl]BL[205.5];W[js]WL[912.6];B[kr]BL[203.3]
C[White was catching up a lot in the endgame... if white whould have seen the possiblity to kill black with the move at F1 i think white would have won easily. Last comment. Black won, there was no komi (only 0.5) because it was game 6 kyu vs. 5 kyu. ]
;W[fs]WL[910.9];B[es]BL[200.0];W[gs]WL[906.6];B[go]BL[191.8];W[mf]WL[901.5]
;B[ks]BL[187.1];W[le]WL[895.6];B[ld]BL[184.1];W[ke]WL[868.2];B[nj]BL[180.5]
;W[oj]WL[866.0];B[sk]BL[171.5];W[sh]WL[863.8];B[de]BL[166.2];W[ee]WL[861.3]
;B[hd]BL[160.9];W[df]WL[856.0];B[ce]BL[157.2];W[is]WL[850.1];B[gd]BL[153.7]
;W[fd]WL[847.6];B[ac]BL[149.2];W[ie]WL[843.8];B[aa]BL[142.2];W[cb]WL[839.4]
;B[hf]BL[139.6];W[lk]WL[835.4];B[kj]BL[136.5];W[io]WL[828.8];B[ej]BL[124.3]
;W[di]WL[825.0];B[bk]BL[103.0];W[cl]WL[821.8];B[bl]BL[92.7];W[dm]WL[817.6]
;B[bj]BL[86.8];W[am]WL[815.4];B[an]BL[80.0];W[ao]WL[812.3];B[al]BL[59.5]
;W[an]WL[787.7];B[dl]BL[26.9];W[aj]WL[776.5];B[]BL[1.4]
(;W[ih]WL[773.8];B[]BL[1.4];W[]WL[773.8]
TW[ca:fa][db:eb][gb:hb][ec:ed][kf:lh][nf:of][rf][og:oi][pg:ph][qg][sg][jh][nh][bj:bm][cj][ak:al][ok:ol][dl:el][nl][cm:cn][dn:do][ap:bp][bq][ar:as][hr:hs]
TB[ka:sa][kb:qb][kc:mc][oc][qc][ad:af][be][bg:cg][gh:gi][hl:hm][sl:ss][rm:rs][pn:pp][qn][oo:os][fp][np:ns][qp:qs][kq:lq][er][mr:ms][pr:ps][ls]
C[eyecatcher [6k\]: thnx, gg
salome1 [5k\]: ty
])
(;W[]WL[776.5]
TW[ca:fa][db:eb][gb:hb][ec:ed][nf:of][rf][og:oi][pg:ph][qg][sg][nh][bj:bm][cj][ak:al][ok:ol][nl][cm:cn][dn:do][ap:bp][bq][ar:as][hr:hs]
TB[ka:sa][kb:qb][kc:mc][oc][qc][ad:af][be][bg:cg][gh:gi][hl:hm][sl:ss][rm:rs][pn:pp][qn][oo:os][fp][np:ns][qp:qs][kq:lq][er][mr:ms][pr:ps][ls]
))
(;W[fs]
(;B[es];W[dr];B[er])
(;B[er];W[cs];B[es];W[gs])))
(;W[fs]
C[Blaacks only move E1 now]
(;B[cs]TR[fs];W[es];B[dr])
(;B[es]
C[If white C1 black lives without problem ... but if black D2 black can`t connect... ]
(;W[cs];B[dr])
(;W[dr]
C[Black has to capture at G1 ]
(;B[gs]
C[If white blocks at H1 , black can live. So white has to capture at C1 ]
(;W[cs]
C[Now black can Ko-connect];B[is];W[hs];B[hr]
(;W[go]
C[Not a good threat :) ];B[io];W[hs])
(;W[bg];B[hs];W[ah]
(;B[cg];W[gf];B[bf];W[ag];B[af];W[ai];B[ae];W[ac];B[hi];W[ii];B[hh];W[gh]
;B[gg];W[hg];B[gi])
(;B[gf];W[cg];B[df])))
(;W[hs];B[cs];W[fs];B[er]))
(;B[cs];W[er];B[fp];W[go])))))
(;B[mf]
(;W[er];B[fr];W[fs]
C[If black E1 now, black maybe is dead, but what about D2 ? ]
(;B[es];W[cs];B[gs];W[dr];B[cr];W[dr];B[hs];W[is])
(;B[dr]
(;W[es];B[gs]
(;W[fs];B[es])
(;W[hs];B[fs]))
(;W[gs];B[es])))
(;W[fr];B[er];W[cs]
C[Black is dead. ])))
(;B[mf];W[fq];B[fp];W[er];B[fr];W[gr];B[dr];W[fs];B[io];W[in]))
(;W[jr]
(;B[iq];W[ip];B[ir];W[kr];B[hr];W[gr];B[jo];W[io];B[in];W[ko];B[ho];W[jo]
)
(;B[jo];W[ip];B[io];W[iq]
C[This is nice for black! (? or isn`t ?) ])))
(;B[hq];W[fp];B[go];W[fq]
(;B[fr];W[er];B[dr];W[gr]
(;B[fs];W[gs];B[es];W[cs])
(;B[es];W[gs];B[hr];W[fs];B[hs];W[er]))
(;B[er];W[fr];B[fs];W[gs];B[hr];W[es])))
(;W[fg];B[fh];W[ei];B[fi];W[ej];B[ff];W[gg];B[ee];W[de];B[df];W[gj];B[gh]
;W[hh];B[hg];W[gf];B[hf];W[ge];B[he];W[gi]))
(;W[kp];B[jq];W[kq];B[ln];W[gq];B[gp];W[fq];B[fp];W[er];B[ep]
(;W[dr]
(;B[pl])
(;B[bi];W[pl];B[qm];W[on];B[pm];W[om];B[ol];W[pk];B[nl]
(;W[lo];B[kn];W[mo];B[jo])
(;W[jn];B[ko];W[jp];B[jo];W[iq];B[hq];W[hr];B[ir];W[jr];B[gr];W[is];B[fr]
;W[mr])))
(;W[pm];B[dr];W[dq];B[fr])))
(;W[jq];B[iq];W[jp]
(;B[mq];W[gq];B[gp];W[ir];B[hq];W[hr];B[gr];W[fq];B[fp];W[fr];B[er];W[gs]
;B[ep])
(;B[hn]
(;W[mq])
(;W[pr])
(;W[np];B[lp];W[io];B[ho];W[kn]))))
(;B[qo];W[pe];B[qe];W[qf];B[qd];W[pg];B[nc];W[qk];B[cj];W[jq];B[lq];W[ch]
;B[co];W[ep];B[dm];W[jo];B[cc];W[dc];B[cd];W[de];B[ce];W[cf];B[bf];W[bg]
;B[df];W[cg]
C[A Pro variation
])
(;B[fc];W[cf];B[db];W[cc];B[hd];W[pe];B[ph];W[oc];B[ob];W[od];B[nb];W[qc]
;B[qb];W[pd];B[pb];W[rc];B[md];W[qg];B[qh];W[pg];B[nh];W[lf];B[ke];W[kf]
;B[jf];W[kg];B[le];W[qn];B[ql]
C[A Pro variation]))
“Competition and faith are my life-long vocations. Like water and fire, I depend on both. When I couldn’t outrank the others, it was time for me to leave. There are two things in my life, truth and Go.” Go Seigen
Sunday, May 19, 2013
Much thinking time, big loss
Even while i like quotes about not taking too much care about winning or loosing, i`m a bit sad that i lost this game. I wrote some comments and variations in the game. Maybe you enjoy! Please leave your comments about the game, i`m curious if you have any advice how to develop my go!
(;GM[1]FF[4]SZ[19]AP[SmartGo:2.8.3.0]CA[UTF-8]
GN[Takeru-eyecatcher]
PW[Takeru]WR[6k]
PB[eyecatcher]BR[6k]
DT[2013-05-19]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[6.5]
RE[W+Resign]
RU[Japanese]
TM[1800.0]OT[10/540 Canadian]
C[Takeru [6k\]: hi gg
eyecatcher [6k\]: Hi, have a good game!
];B[pd]BL[1780.9]
C[I was taking black ];W[dp]WL[1797.3]
C[My oponent was a KGS 6 kyu as well. ];B[pq]BL[1773.1];W[dd]WL[1794.2];B[pk]
BL[1758.0]
C[This was a long game, but long thinking time was not preventing me from missreading some important situations. ]
;W[qo]WL[1784.0]
C[It is unusual, and i remember a lesson from Guo Juan that this is not good (with the normal Chinese Fuseki, don`t know how it is in this case) ]
;B[np]BL[1737.1]
C[What about "2" as next move for white? I think it would be better. ]
(;W[ql]WL[1776.5];B[qk]BL[1722.5];W[rl]WL[1766.9];B[fq]BL[1699.7]
C[Was Tenuki the right choice? ];W[hq]WL[1752.9];B[fo]BL[1688.6];W[kq]WL[1737.8]
;B[qp]BL[1657.6];W[rp]WL[1722.0];B[rq]BL[1648.9]
C[What about n e x t to tenuki? (Variation)]
(;W[ro]WL[1710.8]
C[I was happy that white did answer it...];B[cn]BL[1630.3]
C[Able to play here: i felt quite comfortable];W[dn]WL[1699.6];B[dm]BL[1607.4]
;W[en]WL[1689.8];B[co]BL[1598.2];W[ep]WL[1685.9];B[fp]BL[1588.8];W[bq]WL[1666.4]
;B[hp]BL[1384.4]
C[Allready while playing... i was regretting this move, i think it was not good... ]
;W[ip]WL[1644.4]
C[Now white could strengthen himself. Next black should play C8 instead of the real game? ]
(;B[em]BL[1308.7]
C[With this move i was pushing white in the direction of my weak group. Bad! ]
;W[fn]WL[1626.0]
C[Black better G6 next!?]
(;B[ho]BL[1289.3];W[cl]WL[1604.9]
C[painfull for black ];B[cm]BL[1260.5];W[dj]WL[1599.2]
C[What about G7 as next move for black? I think it is not possible. (Variation) ]
(;B[ek]BL[1228.1];W[ej]WL[1588.1];B[ck]BL[1206.0];W[dk]WL[1576.3];B[dl]BL[1198.4]
;W[cj]WL[1572.7];B[bl]BL[1187.6];W[gm]WL[1539.3];B[io]BL[1170.9];W[jp]WL[1531.7]
;B[gq]BL[1138.1];W[hr]WL[1521.8];B[gn]BL[1093.4];W[fm]WL[1514.3];B[kn]BL[1083.2]
;W[dg]WL[1499.7];B[jr]BL[1074.7];W[kr]WL[1492.6]
C[I think there was a good chance now to kill white. But overall my G3 group is not jet allive... ]
;B[mq]BL[1054.0];W[mr]WL[1475.1];B[nr]BL[1037.5];W[lr]WL[1464.0];B[ms]BL[1006.6]
;W[ls]WL[1449.8];B[js]BL[994.4];W[lo]WL[1445.6]
C[And i allready felt lile winning this game :-) ];B[mn]BL[975.4];W[mo]WL[1440.5]
;B[no]BL[973.5];W[ln]WL[1438.4];B[lp]BL[837.0]
C[I think this move was useless. ];W[ko]WL[1410.7];B[jn]BL[788.9];W[lm]WL[1372.5]
;B[pl]BL[742.3];W[rk]WL[1362.2];B[rj]BL[733.3];W[pm]WL[1352.5];B[om]BL[724.2]
;W[pn]WL[1349.9]
C[No way to kill white. It is a living shape no? ];B[sm]BL[666.9];W[rm]WL[1340.8]
;B[il]BL[554.6];W[lk]WL[1235.4];B[mi]BL[501.4]
C[This was a risky move. ];W[qi]WL[1227.9];B[lj]BL[441.1];W[kk]WL[1206.0]
;B[gj]BL[425.4]
C[I was quite sure that i can kill white if white tenukis, but in the end i couldn`t :-) ]
;W[qj]WL[1200.3];B[cq]BL[393.4];W[cp]WL[1192.1];B[dq]BL[292.6];W[bo]WL[1172.0]
;B[br]BL[264.5];W[eq]WL[1166.2];B[er]BL[258.5];W[dr]WL[1161.4];B[cr]BL[251.9]
;W[fr]WL[1159.6];B[ds]BL[244.5];W[gr]WL[1149.9];B[aq]BL[205.3];W[bp]WL[1081.7]
;B[fk]BL[183.9];W[im]WL[1073.9]
C[Next black plays G7 ... but maybe this was the firts mistake. K7 seems to wor neither (Variation) Do you know a way for black to kill? ]
(;B[hm]BL[172.9];W[hl]WL[1070.9];B[hn]BL[171.8];W[ik]WL[1049.1];B[jl]BL[163.7]
;W[gk]WL[1047.5];B[hj]BL[123.6];W[hk]WL[1029.4];B[jk]BL[96.6];W[ij]WL[1017.7]
;B[fj]BL[70.4];W[jj]WL[1008.7];B[kl]BL[61.1];W[kj]WL[969.2];B[ll]BL[59.1]
;W[ml]WL[955.6];B[mm]BL[57.1];W[nn]WL[946.1];B[nm]BL[51.7];W[on]WL[943.2]
;B[mk]BL[16.7];W[nl]WL[918.5];B[ol]BL[14.2];W[nk]WL[916.7]
C[I missread this (simple) situation];B[nj]BL[8.4];W[mj]WL[912.4];B[eo]BL[538.3]
OB[9];W[pj]WL[863.3];B[mk]BL[527.5]OB[8];W[ok]WL[857.6];B[do]BL[523.8]OB[7]
C[It was a bad exchange for black. I think white is much ahead now. Maybe i should have resigned here. Last comment. ]
;W[jg]WL[847.8];B[gl]BL[516.4]OB[6];W[fl]WL[844.2];B[kc]BL[462.4]OB[5];W[qf]
WL[836.0];B[pf]BL[458.4]OB[4];W[pg]WL[829.9];B[qe]BL[453.6]OB[3];W[og]WL[825.5]
;B[lg]BL[448.6]OB[2];W[rf]WL[800.7];B[hf]BL[443.1]OB[1];W[kf]WL[794.3];B[je]
BL[540.0]OB[10];W[lf]WL[792.4];B[mf]BL[538.5]OB[9];W[ld]WL[772.1];B[me]BL[536.0]
OB[8];W[kd]WL[770.3];B[jd]BL[533.7]OB[7];W[lc]WL[767.9];B[jb]BL[529.6]OB[6]
;W[oc]WL[762.3];B[kg]BL[527.9]OB[5];W[jf]WL[760.1];B[pc]BL[502.0]OB[4];W[od]
WL[754.1];B[oe]BL[497.2]OB[3];W[mj]WL[737.8];B[el]BL[486.9]OB[2];W[gl]WL[733.9]
;B[mk]BL[483.6]OB[1];W[mh]WL[731.5];B[lh]BL[540.0]OB[10];W[mg]WL[726.3];B[ng]
BL[525.8]OB[9];W[nh]WL[722.9];B[jh]BL[514.3]OB[8];W[ih]WL[714.4];B[ii]BL[475.0]
OB[7];W[hi]WL[688.6];B[ji]BL[464.7]OB[6];W[ki]WL[679.8];B[ch]BL[421.7]OB[5]
;W[dh]WL[673.9];B[bj]BL[417.0]OB[4];W[ci]WL[665.2];B[bi]BL[414.2]OB[3];W[cg]
WL[659.0];B[fc]BL[405.7]OB[2];W[ec]WL[653.7];B[cc]BL[403.5]OB[1];W[ed]WL[648.9]
;B[ce]BL[540.0]OB[10];W[cd]WL[645.2];B[bd]BL[536.3]OB[9];W[de]WL[643.4];B[db]
BL[520.3]OB[8];W[eb]WL[638.2];B[bf]BL[514.2]OB[7];W[bg]WL[630.0];B[bb]BL[507.5]
OB[6];W[cf]WL[626.6];B[gd]BL[493.6]OB[5];W[ff]WL[615.9];B[hh]BL[490.6]OB[4]
;W[kh]WL[611.6];B[gg]BL[483.7]OB[3];W[fb]WL[605.6];B[gb]BL[481.5]OB[2];W[fd]
WL[603.9];B[gc]BL[477.9]OB[1];W[ge]WL[602.3];B[he]BL[540.0]OB[10];W[md]WL[582.7]
;B[ob]BL[537.1]OB[9];W[nf]WL[572.7];B[nc]BL[534.3]OB[8];W[nd]WL[570.5];B[re]
BL[532.3]OB[7];W[ne]WL[566.1];B[sf]BL[525.9]OB[6];W[rg]WL[555.8];B[sg]BL[522.4]
OB[5];W[rh]WL[553.7];B[lb]BL[500.0]OB[4];W[nb]WL[550.7];B[mb]BL[496.0]OB[3]
;W[mc]WL[545.9];B[na]BL[491.9]OB[2];W[pb]WL[541.0];B[oa]BL[464.7]OB[1];W[of]
WL[531.9];B[pe]BL[540.0]OB[10];W[qb]WL[526.9];B[qc]BL[538.2]OB[9];W[rb]WL[522.0]
;B[rc]BL[537.0]OB[8];W[sh]WL[511.8];B[sd]BL[510.1]OB[7];W[sb]WL[506.0];B[pa]
BL[459.8]OB[6];W[sc]WL[471.5];B[qa]BL[428.0]OB[5];W[rd]WL[460.6];B[qd]BL[422.6]
OB[4];W[se]WL[443.4];B[sf]BL[420.4]OB[3];W[sg]WL[441.9];B[ra]BL[418.9]OB[2]
;W[ga]WL[430.6];B[ha]BL[415.3]OB[1];W[fa]WL[422.4];B[hb]BL[540.0]OB[10];W[be]
WL[416.1];B[ac]BL[533.2]OB[9];W[bh]WL[410.1];B[fg]BL[523.5]OB[8];W[eg]WL[373.7]
;B[gi]BL[506.8]OB[7];W[ii]WL[361.6];B[kp]BL[471.5]OB[6];W[mp]WL[350.8];B[po]
BL[346.2]OB[5];W[oo]WL[338.1];B[nq]BL[336.7]OB[4];W[lq]WL[335.1];B[pp]BL[321.5]
OB[3];W[qr]WL[328.0];B[sq]BL[276.1]OB[2];W[pr]WL[321.9];B[or]BL[183.3]OB[1]
;W[op]WL[299.7]
C[eyecatcher [6k\]: thank you for the game
Takeru [6k\]: thanks
])
(;B[jm];W[hl]
(;B[ik]
C[This not works because of the cut at K8];W[hk];B[hj];W[jl];B[in];W[hm]
;B[jk];W[kl];B[fl];W[hn];B[go];W[km];B[gl];W[eo];B[bn];W[jo])
(;B[in];W[ik];B[hm];W[gk];B[hj];W[hk];B[jk];W[ij];B[jj];W[ii]))
(;B[hl];W[hm];B[jl];W[jm];B[kl];W[km];B[ll]
C[No :) ])
(;B[kl];W[jm];B[km];W[jl];B[hm];W[hl];B[hn];W[ik];B[gl];W[in];B[jo]
C[No ]))
(;B[gm];W[fm];B[fl];W[gn]
(;B[hn];W[gl];B[hm];W[el];B[fk];W[dl];B[cp];W[cq];B[do];W[eo];B[dq];W[eq]
;B[dr];W[er];B[bl];W[bk];B[am];W[bp];B[bo];W[fr];B[bn];W[ao];B[ak];W[bj]
)
(;B[hm];W[hn];B[in];W[io]
(;B[go])
(;B[iq];W[im];B[jn];W[ir];B[jq];W[jp];B[jr];W[kr];B[gq];W[hr];B[kp];W[js]
;B[gl];W[cp];B[eq];W[dq];B[dr];W[cr];B[es];W[gr];B[fr];W[go];B[gp];W[bo]
;B[do];W[eo];B[bn]))))
(;B[gn];W[fm];B[cl];W[gm];B[hn];W[hm];B[in]
C[I like this more then the actual game. ]))
(;B[cl];W[fn];B[gn]))
(;W[dn];B[ro];W[rn];B[sp];W[pn];B[po];W[oo];B[qn];W[pm];B[nm];W[nn];B[mn]
;W[ol];B[ok];W[nl]
C[Difficult but maybe playable? ]))
(;W[qq];B[qr]
(;W[rq];B[pp];W[qm];B[pn];W[qn];B[ol])
(;W[pp];B[rq];W[oq];B[qp];W[pr];B[qq];W[op];B[po];W[oo];B[pn];W[on];B[pm]
;W[kp])))
“Competition and faith are my life-long vocations. Like water and fire, I depend on both. When I couldn’t outrank the others, it was time for me to leave. There are two things in my life, truth and Go.” Go Seigen
What about english Go-Tv Channel!?
Imagine there would be regular Go-programms on (english) TV!?
Found this on youtube and found it quite amusing to hear with what they come up to fill the time.
They did not have the opportunity to do analysis on a extra board like in Korean and Japan tv and soo they do a lot of "small talk".
“Competition and faith are my life-long vocations. Like water and fire, I depend on both. When I couldn’t outrank the others, it was time for me to leave. There are two things in my life, truth and Go.” Go Seigen
“Competition and faith are my life-long vocations. Like water and fire, I depend on both. When I couldn’t outrank the others, it was time for me to leave. There are two things in my life, truth and Go.” Go Seigen
Thursday, May 16, 2013
Another Game Review
This was a very long game ... feel free to leave your comments if you find mistakes or have a other opinions.
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1500]OT[3x80 byo-yomi]
PW[psrmy668]PB[eyecatcher]WR[5k]BR[5k]DT[2013-05-15]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[psrmy668 [5k\]: hi.gg
eyecatcher [5k\]: Hello, good game 4 u
]RE[W+2.50]
;B[pc]BL[1477.636]C[I was black]
;W[pp]WL[1497.324]
;B[dp]BL[1460.184]
;W[dd]WL[1492.175]
;B[qe]BL[1446.772]
;W[cn]WL[1480.199]
;B[fc]BL[1435.016]C[I liked to play tenuki here because of the keima in the upper right corner]
;W[fd]WL[1471.257]
;B[cc]BL[1401.355]C[This is seldomly played and (sometimes?) labeled as a joseki-mistake... (?) ]
;W[ec]WL[1467.916]C["2" better now! ]
(;B[cd]BL[1385.913]
;W[ce]WL[1464.857]C["2" looks better]
(;B[eb]BL[1364.4]
;W[fb]WL[1461.839]
;B[dc]BL[1350.06]
;W[ed]WL[1457.952]
;B[da]BL[1337.487]
;W[gc]WL[1452.488]
;B[be]BL[1317.871]
;W[cf]WL[1443.07]
;B[fq]BL[1291.479]
;W[bp]WL[1418.42]
;B[cq]BL[1274.32]
;W[ck]WL[1413.555]
;B[bf]BL[1261.687]C[The group is allready allive... this move was to waste the white territory there... but now i doubt that it is the biggest move on the board!]
;W[cg]WL[1410.196]C[Maybe better "2" next ... ]
(;B[bh]BL[1247.718]C[I think this was too small! ]
;W[ch]WL[1403.02]C[Black can`t tenuki now ("2") ]
(;B[bi]BL[1232.438]C[Now it feels like too smal ]
;W[ci]WL[1399.811]
;B[nq]BL[1223.262]
;W[bg]WL[1392.804]C[Useless ... ]
;B[ag]BL[1216.548]
;W[bj]WL[1390.21]
;B[ah]BL[1197.588]
;W[af]WL[1387.331]
;B[ae]BL[1190.618]
;W[lq]WL[1378.253]
;B[no]BL[1119.11]
;W[oq]WL[1371.015]C[I think this move was not very good]
;B[op]BL[1096.507]C[This seems to be a "wrong" response... ]
;W[pq]WL[1361.274]
;B[nr]BL[1086.11]
;W[oo]WL[1358.843]
;B[np]BL[1075.452]
;W[on]WL[1356.652]C[Painfull for black... ]
;B[jq]BL[1066.155]
;W[lo]WL[1354.27]
;B[nn]BL[1055.207]
;W[om]WL[1351.676]
;B[qo]BL[1045.338]C[Overplay ... but whites answer seems to be too weak?! Maybe white could have punished better... "2" (variation) ]
(;W[po]WL[1346.193]C[I think this was a mistake... ]
;B[qm]BL[1031.34]
;W[qp]WL[1343.19]
;B[ro]BL[1020.773]
;W[ql]WL[1338.385]
;B[rl]BL[1006.752]
;W[qk]WL[1335.646]
;B[rk]BL[1001.363]
;W[qj]WL[1330.96]
;B[rj]BL[993.263]
;W[pm]WL[1328.355]
;B[qn]BL[978.523]
;W[lr]WL[1324.119]
;B[mm]BL[941.389]
;W[lm]WL[1319.971]
;B[ll]BL[908.895]C[I thought this was a nice move, but if white plays "3" now ? ]
(;W[km]WL[1309.207]
;B[mk]BL[872.714]
;W[nl]WL[1303.218]
;B[ml]BL[850.973]
;W[jp]WL[1291.816]
;B[kp]BL[831.375]
;W[kq]WL[1285.092]
;B[lp]BL[820.211]C[This was a big mistake! After realising my mistake i suddenly lost hope to win the game... ]
;W[mp]WL[1278.434]
;B[ko]BL[812.835]
;W[jo]WL[1276.07]
;B[qi]BL[763.18]C[But i tried to fight! ]
;W[oj]WL[1272.246]
;B[kd]BL[731.41]
;W[pi]WL[1262.814]
;B[ph]BL[724.749]C[Nowerdays i discover more and more working double hanes... :)(]
(;W[mi]WL[1259.651]
;B[kl]BL[717.018]
;W[jm]WL[1256.912]
;B[li]BL[696.524]
;W[oh]WL[1253.623]
;B[pg]BL[692.187]
;W[lh]WL[1250.477]
;B[ii]BL[683.117]C[My last chance was to waste the territorry there AND live ... ]
;W[ki]WL[1245.565]
;B[kj]BL[673.957]
;W[lj]WL[1242.894]
;B[jj]BL[668.322]
;W[ik]WL[1239.398]
;B[jl]BL[660.674]
;W[il]WL[1235.765]
;B[ig]BL[628.472]
;W[mc]WL[1228.221]
;B[me]BL[624.32]
;W[ld]WL[1222.167]
;B[le]BL[620.517]
;W[kc]WL[1219.822]
;B[jc]BL[611.445]
;W[jd]WL[1217.272]
;B[ke]BL[610.243]
;W[id]WL[1212.465]
;B[kb]BL[604.864]
;W[lc]WL[1210.002]
;B[ic]BL[598.366]
;W[lb]WL[1206.299]
;B[hd]BL[596.556]
;W[jb]WL[1198.948]
;B[ib]BL[589.922]
;W[ka]WL[1196.659]
;B[ie]BL[588.208]
;W[ob]WL[1194.038]C[Quite even game?! ]
;B[pb]BL[586.23]
;W[oc]WL[1188.615]
;B[od]BL[581.698]
;W[gf]WL[1183.661]
;B[fg]BL[571.593]
;W[gg]WL[1180.049]
;B[ge]BL[570.206]
;W[fe]WL[1175.547]
;B[gh]BL[563.329]
;W[fh]WL[1169.522]
;B[fi]BL[560.848]
;W[eh]WL[1166.741]
;B[hh]BL[552.292]
;W[hq]WL[1163.432]
;B[ei]BL[549.679]
;W[eg]WL[1158.9]
;B[hp]BL[536.874]
;W[gq]WL[1148.679]
;B[fr]BL[532.423]
;W[gp]WL[1145.747]
;B[is]BL[530.505]
;W[jr]WL[1142.789]
;B[co]BL[524.687]
;W[bo]WL[1138.406]
;B[dn]BL[523.228]
;W[cm]WL[1134.743]
;B[dm]BL[503.619]
;W[eo]WL[1129.818]
;B[do]BL[494.199]
;W[fn]WL[1127.214]
;B[hm]BL[490.937]
;W[gl]WL[1124.057]
;B[gm]BL[471.285]
;W[gj]WL[1115.971]C[I think "2" would have been much better... ]
(;B[fk]BL[288.376]C[Maybe this was the loosing move ... in the end i lost the game with 2 points ... last comment. ]
;W[fm]WL[1074.368]
;B[gk]BL[272.248]
;W[hl]WL[1060.822]
;B[dj]BL[244.921]
;W[hj]WL[1049.522]
;B[cj]BL[240.268]
;W[bl]WL[1042.752]
;B[gi]BL[204.213]
;W[jh]WL[1027.877]
;B[ih]BL[169.638]
;W[fj]WL[1018.012]
;B[ek]BL[156.59]
;W[im]WL[998.348]
;B[bq]BL[146.14]
;W[dl]WL[990.276]
;B[el]BL[46.129]
;W[dk]WL[983.613]
;B[ej]BL[18.815]
;W[aj]WL[980.038]
;B[af]BL[15.437]
;W[aq]WL[974.608]
;B[ar]BL[9.843]
;W[ap]WL[972.041]
;B[br]BL[8.697]
;W[nf]WL[964.465]
;B[of]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[ne]WL[955.972]
;B[ng]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[nd]WL[948.094]
;B[og]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[pa]WL[926.337]
;B[qb]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[qa]WL[907.249]
;B[ra]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[oa]WL[898.869]
;B[rc]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[nh]WL[880.027]
;B[mg]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[lg]WL[874.821]
;B[mh]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[mj]WL[863.525]
;B[nk]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[ok]WL[853.952]
;B[ni]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[mf]WL[838.143]
;B[lf]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[nj]WL[829.364]
;B[oi]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[jf]WL[819.465]
;B[if]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[jg]WL[790.687]
;B[je]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[nm]WL[783.765]
;B[mo]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[kn]WL[779.194]
;B[qr]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[rq]WL[765.295]
;B[pr]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[rr]WL[761.999]
;B[rs]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[or]WL[756.426]
;B[os]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[qs]WL[751.14]
;B[ps]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[pj]WL[744.518]
;B[pl]BL[80]OB[3]
;W[kf]WL[740.788]
;B[am]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[bm]WL[725.103]
;B[em]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[gd]WL[715.779]
;B[ia]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[ja]WL[709.907]
;B[oe]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[fa]WL[699.317]
;B[bb]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[hb]WL[689.546]
;B[rp]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[qq]WL[684.527]
;B[gr]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[hr]WL[681.273]
;B[hs]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[ir]WL[677.895]
;B[mq]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[lp]WL[672.281]
;B[he]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[ha]WL[668.932]
;B[ea]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[ai]WL[659.399]
;B[bd]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[al]WL[657.003]
;B[ep]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[fp]WL[653.992]
;B[en]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[fo]WL[651.446]
;B[sp]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[sr]WL[633.299]
;B[ns]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[js]WL[627.266]
;B[gs]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[ls]WL[624.874]
;B[md]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[nc]WL[620.372]
;B[jk]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[lk]WL[611.818]
;B[mn]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[ij]WL[606.839]
;B[ji]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[di]WL[601.029]
;B[cp]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[ff]WL[585.389]
;B[pn]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[ol]WL[576.18]
;B[]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[ss]WL[571.429]
;B[qs]BL[80]OB[2]
;W[]WL[571.429]
;B[]BL[80]OB[2]TW[ga][la][ma][na][gb][kb][mb][nb][fc][de][ee][df][ef][dg][fg][kg][dh][kh][li][ak][bk][pk][cl][pl][am][gm][hm][an][bn][gn][hn][in][jn][ao][go][ho][io][ko][hp][ip][kp][iq][jq][kr][ks]TB[aa][ba][ca][sa][ab][cb][db][rb][sb][ac][bc][qc][sc][ad][id][jd][pd][qd][rd][sd][pe][re][se][pf][qf][rf][sf][qg][rg][sg][nh][oh][qh][rh][sh][ri][si][sj][sk][sl][rm][sm][rn][sn][so][dq][eq][cr][dr][er][as][bs][cs][ds][es][fs]C[psrmy668 [5k\]: thx
eyecatcher [6k\]: thank you, good game
])
(;B[fm]
(;W[em]
;B[el]
;W[en]
;B[cl]
;W[bl]
;B[fl]
;W[dl]
;B[im]
;W[gi]
;B[fk]
;W[fj]
;B[ej]
;W[ep]
;B[eq]
;W[dr]
;B[cr]
;W[dq]
;B[cp]
;W[er]
;B[ds]
;W[bq]
;B[br]
;W[ar]
;B[bs])
(;W[gi]
;B[ek])))
(;W[qh]
;B[ri]
(;W[oh]
;B[pg])
(;W[pg]
;B[oh]
;W[qg]
;B[og]))
(;W[ri]
;B[qh]))
(;W[ml]
;B[ln]
;W[km]
;B[kn])
(;W[mn]
(;B[mo]
;W[ln]
;B[nm]
;W[ml]
;B[nl]
;W[mk]
;B[nk]
;W[mj]
;B[nj]
;W[ni])
(;B[nm]
;W[ml]
;B[km]
;W[ln]
;B[nl]C[Maybe black can escape, but it looks very dangerous... ]
;W[mk]
;B[nk]
;W[mj]
;B[nj]
;W[ni]
;B[mi]
;W[li]
;B[mh]
;W[lj]
;B[oi]
;W[nh]
;B[ng]
;W[oh]
;B[ph]
;W[og])))
(;W[qn]C[Maybe the Hane does work ... ("2") ]
(;B[po]C[This seems to be a dead end ... ]
;W[qp]
;B[pn]
;W[pm]
;B[ro]
;W[rn]
;B[rp]
;W[rq])
(;B[rn]
;W[qm]
;B[rm]
(;W[rl]
;B[ql]
;W[qk]
;B[pl]
;W[rk]
;B[rq]
;W[qr]
;B[po]
;W[qp]
;B[rp]
;W[ro]
;B[so]
;W[pn]
;B[ro]
;W[or]
;B[qq]
;W[rr]
;B[os]
;W[pr]
;B[sr])
(;W[ql]
;B[rl]
;W[rk]
;B[qk]
;W[qj]
;B[pk]
;W[rj]
;B[rq]C[Is this allive? ]))))
(;B[qn]
;W[bg]
;B[ag]
;W[bi]
;B[ah]
;W[ai]
;B[af]
;W[bd]))
(;B[nq]
;W[qn]
;B[kp]
;W[oq]
;B[kd]))
(;B[dc]
;W[eb]C[Wrong! ]
;B[de]
;W[ed]
;B[cf]
;W[be]
(;B[df]C[I think black is good like this ... ]
;W[bf]
;B[bg]
(;W[bd]
;B[bc]
(;W[cg]
;B[ch]
;W[dg]
;B[eg]
;W[dh]
;B[di]
;W[eh]
;B[fh]
;W[ei]
;B[ej]
;W[fi]
;B[gi]
;W[fj]
;B[fk]
;W[gj]
;B[hj]
;W[gk]
;B[gl]
;W[hk]
;B[ik]
;W[hl]
;B[hm]
;W[il]
;B[jl]
;W[im]
;B[in]
;W[jm]
;B[km]
;W[jn]
;B[jo]
;W[kn]
;B[ln]
;W[ko]
;B[kp]
;W[lo]
;B[mo]
;W[lp]
;B[lq]
;W[mp]
;B[np]
;W[mq]
;B[mr]
;W[nq]
;B[oq]
;W[nr]
;B[or]
;W[ns]
;B[ms]
;W[os]
;B[ps])
(;W[ac]
;B[ad]
;W[ab]
;B[bb]
;W[ae]
;B[ag]
;W[ba]
;B[af]))
(;W[bc]
;B[bd]
(;W[cb]
;B[ae])
(;W[ad]
(;B[ae])
(;B[af]))))
(;B[bf]C[This is a mistake]
;W[df]
;B[ee]
;W[ef]
;B[fe]
;W[ge])))
(;B[be]
;W[gc]
;B[cg]C[Bad for white, white is overconcentrated. ]))
“Competition and faith are my life-long vocations. Like water and fire, I depend on both. When I couldn’t outrank the others, it was time for me to leave. There are two things in my life, truth and Go.” Go Seigen
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