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Monday, November 28, 2011

Loosing games - learning why

In the last time, i`m not very successful, i lost most of the games i played.
That might have to do something with the fact that i`m working on a documentary film right now, that keeps me busy most of the time. But anyway i think it is not wise to always look for a excuse for a lost game  –  i`m just not soo good at playing as i would like to be, my opening skills, intuition, life and death ... there is so much too learn.
What i do regular since a few weeks is solving tsumego... and i replay pro games and read some go books about the opening.
To loose a long, and kind of "serious", game,  just after some hours of study is the most frustrating thing ... you just started to think "oh yes, i really learned much, i just became stronger" ... and then ... after you loose, you realize how much there is left to learn.
Some people are managing it to become shodan with in 2 or 3 years,  in my case, i think it will take me several years from now on until i will get there... maybe i don`t have any talent for being a good go player, but that is not important, i love to play, and if i have to study more and harder, to become a dan player one day, i will do so.
And in fact becoming "shodan" is not the main goal, the main goal is to get a more profund understanding of the game that will help to enjoy the game even more.

Even if i can`t win much games at the moment, i feel like it is a very good thing, to analyze every played game, to find out why it was lost or won.

Here are 2 games, both have variations and comments included.

"The one with the second chance"
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[hokohoko-eyecatcher]PW[hokohoko]PB[eyecatcher]WR[6k]BR[6k]DT[2011-11-28]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[hokohoko [6k\]: hi
eyecatcher [6k\]: Hello, good game for you
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[1495.4]C[I was black. ]
;W[dd]WL[1492.7]C[Time: 25 min + 5x30 byo yomi ]
;B[pp]BL[1492.1]
;W[dp]WL[1486]
;B[fq]BL[1489.7]
;W[cn]WL[1480.7]
;B[dr]BL[1485.7]
;W[cq]WL[1478.7]
;B[iq]BL[1480.1]
(;W[qf]WL[1464.2]LB[qn:A]C[W10 at "A" is also a good move.]
;B[qh]BL[1475.7]
;W[qc]WL[1449.3]
;B[qd]BL[1470.3]
;W[pc]WL[1447.7]
;B[od]BL[1463.7]
;W[rd]WL[1445.7]
;B[re]BL[1462]
;W[rc]WL[1444.1]
;B[qe]BL[1460.5]
;W[nc]WL[1442.4]
;B[cf]BL[1447.2]C[Was this a good move? What would you have played? ]
;W[dj]WL[1393.2]C[Interesting answer.]SL[aa:eh][bi:di][cj:dj][fa:fg][gc:ge]
;B[ci]BL[1433.3]LB[fc:A]C[I don`t know, this is a move of the kind "i want to try it out" but next time i would play "A" , this W23 could be a mistake ... ]
;W[ce]WL[1387.9]
;B[cj]BL[1431.5]
;W[df]WL[1356.8]
;B[bm]BL[1425.5]C[I think i played strange here... ]
;W[cm]WL[1280.8]
;B[cl]BL[1412.1]
;W[dl]WL[1270.3]
;B[ck]BL[1397.1]
;W[dk]WL[1254.8]
;B[cc]BL[1394]C[Let`s try it out... ]
;W[be]WL[1216.8]
;B[ec]BL[1389.5]
;W[bn]WL[1209.1]
;B[dg]BL[1382.5]
;W[bf]WL[1200.3]
;B[ef]BL[1377]
;W[cg]WL[1198]
;B[dh]BL[1374.7]
;W[ee]WL[1192.1]
;B[dc]BL[1371]
;W[ff]WL[1188.9]C[If both groups wile live, i thought it would be a very good result for black... ]
;B[fh]BL[1367.3]
;W[eg]WL[1185.4]
;B[eh]BL[1364]
;W[gc]WL[1180.1]C[Good move.]
;B[fd]BL[1357.5]C[Kind of useless... ]
;W[gd]WL[1132.5]
;B[fb]BL[1346.5]
;W[gb]WL[1126.9]
;B[bd]BL[1339.3]
;W[bh]WL[1118.5]C[If black plays "2" (variation) now, can white kill the group? ]
(;B[bb]BL[1333.5]C[Was this move necessary? I don`t think so... ]
;W[gj]WL[1113.8]
;B[gi]BL[1331]
;W[hj]WL[1111.2]
;B[fj]BL[1325.8]
;W[fk]WL[1105.1]
;B[hi]BL[1321.8]
;W[rf]WL[1041.4]C[good timing... maybe "2" (variation) would have been better... ]
(;B[sf]BL[1313.5]
;W[sg]WL[1031.8]
;B[pf]BL[1297]C[Next to capture at "2" is maybe better. ]
(;W[nd]WL[1022.7]LB[jd:A]C[Next black should have done something about the top ... maybe invade at "A" ]
;B[rg]BL[1290]C[I think this move is much too small ]
;W[nf]WL[1018.7]
;B[ij]BL[1284.4]
;W[hl]WL[1006]
;B[ig]BL[1267.8]C[Black has to defend one more move, it is painfull. ]
;W[jd]WL[992.8]C[Looks like white is leading now... ]
;B[ld]BL[1265.3]
;W[mb]WL[935.3]
;B[kd]BL[1254.7]
;W[je]WL[921.8]
;B[me]BL[1252.1]
;W[ne]WL[919.5]
;B[lg]BL[1237.1]
;W[nh]WL[864.6]
;B[jf]BL[1193.3]
;W[ke]WL[839.4]
;B[le]BL[1171.4]
;W[jc]WL[826.8]
;B[kf]BL[1169.4]
;W[mf]WL[823.5]
;B[lf]BL[1166.1]C[Again black ends in gote! ]
;W[nq]WL[745.8]
;B[pn]BL[1157.5]
;W[pr]WL[731.6]
;B[qq]BL[1155.5]
;W[kq]WL[729]
;B[pk]BL[1152.4]
;W[qk]WL[670.6]C[White can do something here, so it looks very bad for black. ]
;B[ql]BL[1145]
;W[pj]WL[652.1]
;B[rk]BL[1129.6]
;W[qj]WL[604.6]
;B[rj]BL[1127.5]
;W[pl]WL[586.2]
;B[qm]BL[1098.5]
;W[ok]WL[584.2]
;B[lp]BL[1089.1]C[Black is allready hopeless. ]
;W[lq]WL[580.9]
;B[np]BL[1086.3]
;W[mp]WL[576.1]
;B[mo]BL[1084.2]
;W[mq]WL[574.3]
;B[oq]BL[1081.2]
;W[or]WL[570.1]
;B[no]BL[1069.5]
;W[qr]WL[566.8]
;B[rr]BL[1067.2]
;W[pq]WL[560.4]
;B[qp]BL[1064.3]
;W[op]WL[552.4]
;B[fn]BL[1031.6]
;W[fp]WL[510]
;B[gk]BL[1027.6]C[Now i tried hardly to turn the game arround. ]
;W[hk]WL[496.2]
;B[gl]BL[1025.6]
;W[ej]WL[437.5]
;B[fi]BL[1012]
;W[gm]WL[435.9]
;B[fl]BL[1010.3]
;W[fm]WL[433.4]
;B[ek]BL[1002.2]
;W[el]WL[427.5]
;B[fk]BL[999.6]
;W[hn]WL[418.7]C[White was handeling the situation very good. ]
;B[ep]BL[983.7]
;W[eo]WL[417.1]
;B[eq]BL[976.1]
;W[cr]WL[408.9]
;B[fo]BL[956.4]
;W[en]WL[404.7]
;B[gp]BL[953.3]
;W[kp]WL[395.1]
;B[mh]BL[931.7]
;W[ni]WL[374.8]
;B[ng]BL[928.5]
;W[mg]WL[345.8]
;B[og]BL[922.2]
;W[mi]WL[326.5]
;B[lh]BL[918.8]TR[nh][mi][ni][pj][qj][ok][qk][pl]C[Black´s last chance is to kill the white group ]
;W[li]WL[323.4]
;B[im]BL[916.6]
;W[hm]WL[320.9]
;B[mk]BL[911]
;W[on]WL[267.2]
;B[om]BL[903.4]
;W[nn]WL[253.4]
;B[nl]BL[900]
;W[pm]WL[245.3]
;B[ol]BL[890.6]
;W[pk]WL[242.6]C[Now black has a big chance to turn the game around ]
;B[oo]BL[857]
;W[qn]WL[233.8]
;B[po]BL[855.5]
;W[rn]WL[231.8]
;B[rl]BL[854.3]
;W[lk]WL[207]
;B[ll]BL[835.3]
;W[kk]WL[198.2]
;B[ik]BL[824.8]
;W[kl]WL[195.5]
;B[jm]BL[768.2]
;W[km]WL[159.2]
;B[kn]BL[761.2]
;W[jn]WL[116.3]
;B[jo]BL[645.9]
;W[il]WL[89.6]
;B[jl]BL[641.1]
;W[jk]WL[85.4]
;B[in]BL[638.5]
;W[ii]WL[83.5]C[I did not saw this move before, game is over. ]
;B[jj]BL[630.7]
;W[ji]WL[81.6]
;B[kj]BL[627.6]
;W[lj]WL[77.9]
;B[jr]BL[594]
;W[kr]WL[75.6]
;B[dq]BL[561.6]
;W[co]WL[48]
;B[ih]BL[544.4]
;W[gg]WL[31.3]
;B[hh]BL[538.4]
;W[bl]WL[7.2]
;B[bk]BL[499.8]
;W[am]WL[5.3]
;B[jh]BL[494.4]
;W[ki]WL[2.2]
;B[bi]BL[466.1]
;W[lm]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[mn]BL[461.4]
;W[ln]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[aj]BL[450.7]
;W[io]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ip]BL[440.5]TR[kd][ld][le][me][jf][kf][lf][dg][ig][lg][dh][eh][fh][hh][ih][jh][lh][bi][ci][fi][gi][hi][aj][cj][fj][bk][ck][ek][fk][gk][cl][fl][gl]C[Looks like this groupd is dead, and even if not, white has much more points. ]
;W[jn]WL[30]OW[5]C[eyecatcher [6k\]: Thank you for the game
hokohoko [6k\]: thx
])
(;W[se]))
(;B[pf]
;W[se]
;B[qg]))
(;B[pm]
;W[bb]
;B[bc]
;W[fc]
;B[eb]
;W[cb]
;B[ab]
;W[ad]
;B[db]
;W[fa]
;B[ca]
;W[ba]
;B[aa]
;W[ea]
;B[bb]C[Do you know if white could have killed? ]))
(;W[qn]))


"The one with the group that should not have ran away"
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x70 byo-yomi]
GN[eyecatcher-rainerle]PW[eyecatcher]PB[rainerle]WR[6k]BR[6k]DT[2011-11-28]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[eyecatcher [6k\]: Hello, good game for you
rainerle [6k\]: good morning from Berlin, Germany
rainerle [6k\]: enjoy the game
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[qp]BL[1760]C[eyecatcher [6k\]: Hallo aus Ludwigsburg :)
]
;W[dp]WL[1789.6]C[rainerle [6k\]: ach, doch ein deutscher?
eyecatcher [6k\]: ja
eyecatcher [6k\]: :-)
rainerle [6k\]: na dann erst recht viel spaß
]
;B[pc]BL[1715.8]C[eyecatcher [6k\]: viel spaß
]
;W[dd]WL[1780.9]
;B[fq]BL[1710.5]
;W[hq]WL[1762.2]
;B[fo]BL[1688.1]
;W[dn]WL[1749.2]
;B[dr]BL[1678.9]C[Next the normal joseki move is at "2" (variation) ]
(;W[gp]WL[1712]C[This is not joseki. ]
;B[fp]BL[1669.2]
;W[cq]WL[1710.5]
;B[cr]BL[1667.1]
;W[np]WL[1706.8]
;B[kq]BL[1654.2]
;W[qq]WL[1606.2]
;B[pq]BL[1608.9]
;W[pp]WL[1600]C[Normaly black plays "2" next (variation) ]
(;B[oq]BL[1590.4]
(;W[op]WL[1583.6]
;B[nq]BL[1583.5]
;W[mq]WL[1578]
;B[mp]BL[1542.3]
;W[qr]WL[1545.8]
;B[mr]BL[1524.1]
;W[qo]WL[1543.6]
;B[rp]BL[1520.6]
;W[ro]WL[1542.2]
;B[mo]BL[1485.5]C[White can be happy. ]
;W[pf]WL[1527.9]
;B[qh]BL[1441.3]
;W[qj]WL[1519.2]
;B[oh]BL[1425.8]
(;W[nf]WL[1509.4]
;B[nd]BL[1413.4]
;W[oj]WL[1470.9]
;B[mh]BL[1393.4]
;W[qc]WL[1467.2]
;B[qd]BL[1375.6]
;W[pd]WL[1434.3]
;B[pe]BL[1365.6]
;W[od]WL[1432.2]
;B[oe]BL[1363.2]
;W[oc]WL[1430.6]
;B[ne]BL[1325.8]
;W[qe]WL[1416.3]
;B[rd]BL[1322.8]
;W[rc]WL[1392]
;B[re]BL[1273.9]
;W[nc]WL[1375.3]
;B[of]BL[1233.2]
;W[md]WL[1337.3]
;B[me]BL[1228]
;W[ld]WL[1331.8]
;B[le]BL[1225.8]
;W[kd]WL[1328.2]C[White has territory and black is overconcentrated. ]
;B[fc]BL[1203.8]
;W[ec]WL[1321.3]
;B[fd]BL[1200.2]
;W[cf]WL[1318.3]
;B[jc]BL[1193]
;W[kc]WL[1309]
;B[jb]BL[1178.9]
;W[hc]WL[1301.9]
;B[hd]BL[1137.4]
;W[id]WL[1271.2]
;B[ic]BL[1121.7]
;W[gd]WL[1270]
;B[he]BL[1118.7]
;W[gc]WL[1267.3]
;B[ge]BL[1108.1]
;W[fb]WL[1265.6]
;B[eb]BL[1102]
;W[fe]WL[1252.3]C[White is very happy now. ]
;B[jd]BL[1031.5]C[White is favorable now. ]
;W[ie]WL[1210.6]
;B[if]BL[1015.7]
;W[cj]WL[1178.2]
;B[fm]BL[971.8]
;W[hn]WL[1176]C[I should have sarcificed this group ... or make live ... but the group will be killed and the game goes to black. ]
;B[ho]BL[946.6]
;W[go]WL[1173.9]
;B[gn]BL[944.9]
;W[io]WL[1173]
;B[ip]BL[937.7]
;W[hp]WL[1167]
;B[jp]BL[932.4]
;W[il]WL[1165.1]
;B[jn]BL[914.9]
;W[gm]WL[1162.9]
;B[fn]BL[909.3]
;W[gl]WL[1161.7]
;B[fl]BL[896.9]
;W[fk]WL[1153.7]
;B[gk]BL[867.2]
;W[hk]WL[1152]C[This is something like a loosing move, i missed (and yes i did play fast here, even if i had much time) H7 (B97) ]
;B[hm]BL[862.1]
;W[im]WL[1135.5]
;B[hl]BL[857.8]
;W[gl]WL[1130.8]
;B[gm]BL[850.9]
;W[in]WL[1128.3]
;B[ik]BL[845.9]
;W[jk]WL[1124.4]
;B[hj]BL[841.9]
;W[kl]WL[1115.8]
;B[mk]BL[801.7]
;W[ml]WL[1108]
;B[nl]BL[789.9]
;W[lk]WL[1105.7]
;B[mm]BL[783.7]
;W[mj]WL[1103.9]
;B[ll]BL[780.5]
;W[lj]WL[1096]
;B[nj]BL[776.2]
;W[ni]WL[1093.6]
;B[nk]BL[770.8]
;W[mi]WL[1090.3]
;B[oi]BL[765.6]
;W[nh]WL[1087.2]
;B[ng]BL[762.6]
;W[mg]WL[1084.2]
;B[mf]BL[750.7]
;W[lh]WL[1082.7]
;B[kg]BL[718.8]
;W[kh]WL[1043.3]
;B[jj]BL[687.9]
;W[kj]WL[1026.7]
;B[ji]BL[643.5]
;W[ki]WL[1008.3]
;B[lg]BL[635.2]
;W[jm]WL[995.2]
;B[km]BL[600.7]
;W[kn]WL[993.7]
;B[lm]BL[587.5]
;W[jo]WL[990.6]
;B[ko]BL[584.6]
;W[lo]WL[984.8]
;B[kp]BL[576.8]
;W[jh]WL[973.5]
;B[ih]BL[551.4]
;W[jr]WL[971.2]
;B[kr]BL[524.7]
;W[ii]WL[969.4]
;B[ij]BL[518.4]
;W[ig]WL[965.8]
;B[hh]BL[514.8]
;W[gr]WL[841.2]
;B[ir]BL[466.3]
;W[fr]WL[801.9]
;B[eq]BL[446.2]
;W[er]WL[797.2]
;B[dq]BL[442.5]
;W[is]WL[795.6]
;B[iq]BL[380.8]C[Game is over now, but i kept trying to find a way ... but actually after B155 the was no chance left. Last comment. ]
;W[pg]WL[461.8]
;B[og]BL[354.1]
;W[rf]WL[399.1]
;B[qf]BL[326.6]
;W[qg]WL[392.3]
;B[rg]BL[319.2]
;W[qe]WL[383.9]
;B[ph]BL[307.2]
;W[je]WL[352.2]
;B[ke]BL[272.2]
;W[jf]WL[348.6]
;B[jg]BL[266.2]
;W[hf]WL[340.6]
;B[ql]BL[187.5]
;W[gi]WL[337.8]
;B[hi]BL[182.4]
;W[rh]WL[313.7]
;B[qf]BL[171.3]
;W[pl]WL[308.4]
;B[pm]BL[167]
;W[qm]WL[305.3]
;B[rl]BL[147.2]
;W[om]WL[273.3]
;B[pn]BL[105.7]
;W[qn]WL[266.7]
;B[on]BL[83.6]
;W[pk]WL[256]
;B[rj]BL[59.4]
;W[ri]WL[249.8]
;B[qk]BL[35.9]
;W[qi]WL[216.6]
;B[sk]BL[11.2]
;W[rm]WL[211.1]
;B[pj]BL[70]OB[5]
;W[pi]WL[199.5]
;B[sh]BL[70]OB[5]
;W[sm]WL[160.6]
;B[si]BL[70]OB[5]
;W[cp]WL[124.4]
;B[dl]BL[70]OB[5]
;W[cl]WL[119.6]
;B[dm]BL[70]OB[5]
;W[cm]WL[118]
;B[gf]BL[70]OB[5]
;W[gg]WL[108]
;B[ff]BL[70]OB[5]
;W[hg]WL[94.2]C[GoRoGoRo [7k\]: f14so traurig
]
;B[ee]BL[70]OB[5]
;W[ed]WL[79]C[GoRoGoRo [7k\]: ah nee, hatte nur ganz oben geschaut
]
;B[fg]BL[70]OB[5]
;W[gh]WL[73]
;B[kf]BL[70]OB[5]
;W[if]WL[70.6]
;B[fi]BL[70]OB[5]C[GoRoGoRo [7k\]: j14 war auch nicht gerade genial von W
rainerle [6k\]: danke
eyecatcher [6k\]: Danke für das spiel
rainerle [6k\]: fetzige partie
eyecatcher [6k\]: war ok ^^
rainerle [6k\]: sehr spannend
eyecatcher [6k\]: mhm, schon ein wenig spannend :-)
rainerle [6k\]: unten links hättest du leben können glaub ich
eyecatcher [6k\]: wie?
])
(;W[oj]
;B[ql]))
(;W[qo]
;B[rp]
;W[op]
;B[qr]
;W[ro]
;B[rq]
;W[qj]
;B[pn]
;W[po]
;B[ql]
;W[ok]
;B[ol]
;W[nl]
;B[nm]
;W[pl]
;B[om]
;W[pk]
;B[qn]
;W[rm]
;B[qm]
;W[on]
;B[ml]
;W[nk]
;B[rn]
;W[sn]
;B[rl]
;W[mm]
;B[mn]
;W[nn]
;B[lm]
;W[pm]
;B[mm]
;W[sm]
;B[mq]
;W[mp]
;B[lq]))
(;B[pr]
;W[qr]C["1" or "2" ]
(;B[rr]
;W[rq]
;B[rp]
;W[sr]
;B[rs]
;W[qs]
;B[nr]
;W[po]
;B[sp]
;W[qo]
;B[sq]
;W[ss]
;B[rr]C[This looks strange but it is a joseki, but personaly i would not like this for white ... but i`m just a lousy 6 kyu :-)) ])
(;B[rp]
;W[oq]
;B[po]
;W[op]
;B[rr]
;W[or]
;B[rq]
;W[ps]
;B[ql]
;W[pk])))
(;W[cq]
;B[jq]C[a fighting joseki ]
;W[ho]
;B[fm]
;W[dl]
;B[jo]
;W[hm]
;B[fk]))


"You should look at the board and play wherever you want to. This is the way to get stronger."
Takemiya Masaki

2 comments:

Doublehane said...

"you just started to think "oh yes, i really learned much, i just became stronger" ... and then ... after you loose, you realize how much there is left to learn."

I so know what you are talking about! Sometimes I realize how far ahead even single digit kyu is, let alone shodan (I'm at 14 kyu now). Then I have a game in which I can utilize a new concept or solve a l&d problem I wouldnt' have solved a couple of weeks ago, and ....tadaaaaaa...I see myself rising to shodan in 2 years again ;)

jenj said...

"you just started to think "oh yes, i really learned much, i just became stronger" ... and then ... after you loose, you realize how much there is left to learn."

same stuff here :)

i think noone can really learn something from reading. it's kinda theories. only things you can get from lessons is 1. inspiration 2. new ideas. but to make it material is a next step: experience.

about your Go… can i make one proposition?

i see 2 system things: 1. not much patience to whole-board situation; 2. broken shapes in local conflicts

most of the games are fall apart after fuseki stage

why? i can only guess. maybe it will be helpful

i think you tryin' too hard. kinda "green-eyed monster syndrome" (http://kazsensei.seesaa.net/article/108187284.html). and it lead to crazy resistance like in thirty-six stratagems: "Cornered prey will often mount a final desperate attack. To prevent this you let the enemy believe he still has a chance for freedom. His will to fight is thus dampened by his desire to escape. When in the end the freedom is proven a falsehood the enemy's morale will be defeated and he will surrender without a fight"

it's my own quests as well :)

gooood way!

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